Trump Preparing for Nuclear War

No it does not "MAD"- Mutually Assured Destruction was the idea that the U.S. and Soviet Union could inflict unacceptable levels of destruction on the other that made it impossible to "win" a conflict in any reasonable sense of the word. To the U.S. that for years was based on the capability of killing roughly 80 million Soviet citizens. President Carter reckoned it as the ability to destroy roughly 100-200 cities in the Soviet Union. One can reasonably assume the Soviets had similar standards for MAD.

But.

All the nuclear weapons detonated in the world as ground bursts ( the kinds of explosions that generate fallout) would not not create enough fall out to kill everyone on Earth. Or even everyone in the United States or Russia. Remember that most people that are exposed to radioactive fall out do not die. At least not for a couple of decades from elevated cancer levels. And you can radically reduce your danger from fallout by washing it off as soon as possible.

 

Then how do those 2,000 people live on the island of Novae Zemblya?

225 nuclear detonations, 245 megatons in an area the size of Maine or Indiana.

 

Oh ... you deny the radioactive radiation and its lethality?
How many of these in Hiroshima during the bomb explosion and how many died due to radiocative radiation later, eh?

 

Sure ... but topic here was Russia and not China ... which has clear lesser atomic wepaons, but enough to eleminate the USA too.

 

No, some people just extremely over exaggerate the effects of nuclear explosion.

 

200 nukes is enough to eliminate the USA?

 

I can't believe I'm reading this.

You do realize, of course, that the planet would be uninhabitable after a nuclear exchange don't you?

 

Nope, not true! Especially not with China and its 200-300 nukes.

 

Let a quarter = 50 pieces get through and explode in 50 cities or regions ... then I'll see how far the US still exists!

 

You missed a whole conversation about this about 5-7 pages ago.
I’m not going to repeat the same stuff. You want to believe MAD is real - believe it. I don’t care. I’m just glad our leaders understand that it’s a myth.

 

Over exaggerating? ROFL .... Coming soon is one who denies the radioactivity and it's just a little bigger "New Year's Eve fireworks", eh?

 

Oh ... really?
I think rather, you have not yet recognized the connection. But OK ... that's it!

 

Going through war games like this is exactly what the Pentagon should be doing.

I'm sure they have extensive lists of military targets and cities in Russia if the worst happens. That doesn't mean they want to nuke Moscow.

 

Every US president has the football, and is prepared for nuclear war.

 

What connection?
We discussed in great lengths the limitations of nukes, what the practical size and yield is and how damaging each would become. It was also mentioned that MIRVs are limited in area they can cover.
But that’s OK, you were raised with “nukes = end of the world”. You can’t think critically and research the subject yourself. Just stay in your bubble.

 

Thousands over the decades. But a death decades down the road cannot really be attributable to nuclear detonations in the past. As most people will die from other factors anyway over that time period.

 

That's as false as your obsessive claims about Israel controlling the United States.

After the greatest nuclear exchange imaginable there would be whole countries for that matter whole CONTINENTS untouched.

 

That's right. We don't have to be conceived, and we very likely will not get born, but if we are born we are born with a death warrant tacked to our foreheads.

 

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Doesn't that depend on the cities? If all those cities are in New York and California then its a tragedy for the country but the country still survives and recovers.

Nor is the U.S. going to end if cities like Minot, ND (a target in any nuclear exchange given that it is a major storage site for U.S. nuclear weapons) are destroyed.

By the way, I saw an analysis of the differing impacts on cities by the same nuclear weapons. It said that if the most powerful commonly deployed nuclear warhead in the U.S. arsenal the W87 (475 kiloton) hit London and the same hit Minot. If a W87 hit London it would kill an estimated 675,000 people.

If a W87 (or its equivalent) hit Minot it would kill about 3,000 people. If a one megaton nuclear warhead hit Minot it would raise the death toll to about 5,000.

 

Everyone ever born has a death warrant tacked to their foreheads.

 

Considering that a nuke gives you the biggest bang for the buck when burst in the atmosphere, in case of nuclear exchange one can safely assume the fallout will be minimal. Those who will be about 10 miles away from each explosion will live to tell the story to their grandkids.

 

I been getting mine from Fukashima in my milk for the last four years. I can't wash it out but it isn't too much of a worry. We need hundreds more nuclear power plants.

 

somehow you know how many nuke they have lol they have 3000 mile tunnel to hide their nuke and 8 SSBN, each with 12 ICBM, each icbm has about 3-9 warhead. not including their mobile D31/D41 and the old silo nuke.

 

yea, live in a stone age lol

 

3000 mile tunnel?
What are you smoking?