Trump Pulls Out of North Korea Summit Meeting with Kim Jong-un

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  1. AtsamattaU

    AtsamattaU Well-Known Member

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    Trump once again demonstrating what a remarkable tool he is. No doubt he’s just trying to save face since Kim has already promised to stand him up. Oh but wait,
    Sure pal. Anything to keep your reality TV presidency in the headlines. Making America a Joke one idiotic tweet at a time.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/world/asia/north-korea-trump-summit.html
     
  2. AmericanNationalist

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    At least we gave diplomacy a try. Now they can't go crying to the UN when we take the needed measures necessary to protect ourselves and our allies from a possible nuclear attack. We should not only continue the joint efforts with the South, but we should position anti-nuclear material with our Japanese allies, and in other neutral areas.(IE: Similar to the Umbrella Satellites we had in Eastern Europe against the Russians.)

    As Lindsey Graham(R-SC) said, if the North Koreans attempted to mislead the United States in these discussions there would be reprecussions. They not only misled us, but they misled our allies.
     
  3. AtsamattaU

    AtsamattaU Well-Known Member

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    In other words, now you have a “justification” for defending Trump getting us into another war?
     
  4. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Assassination is preferable to Nuclear war.
     
  5. AmericanNationalist

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    I believed war with NK was inevitable by 2013. It was obvious that the North Korean regime intended to build its weapons and forces to join the developing AXIS of China-Russia-Iran. You don't publish propaganda of an attack on NYC and be an ally. Had HRC been President and tough on NK, I'd be in support of her decisions.
     
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    Oh stop complaining. Allow this investigation....err...negotiation play out. What are you afraid of?
     
  7. Russ103

    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would there be a war with NK over this??

    Remember Ronald Reagan’s (similar) approach to the commies, there wasn’t a shot fired, and we won.

    Calm down now, the Commander in Chief is doing just fine.
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What???

    How did Trump "gave diplomacy a try"?

    TRUMP cut off talks, not Kim!

    That is called Trump FAILURE at the very first hint of difficulty!
    .....
    The ONLY people being misled is the American people who are cluelessness enough to actually Trump and Bolton ever wanted to anything except to attack war to North Korea as soon as possible!
     
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    Why did Trump cut off the talks, I'll help:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...y-word-of-letter-canceling-north-korea-summit

    -Threatening our country
    -Not showing up/not allowing us to see the demolition
    -Insulting the POTUS'S VP.

    Those are pretty legitimate reasons to see the North Koreans as not serious, so we're not going to bother. I thought you were worried Trump would "agree to anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
     
  10. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :lol:

    Reagan did some stupid stuff, but his approach was true elegance compared to Trump!

    Reagan's approach was NEVER to do anything approaching the stupidity of Trump and Bolton!
     
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    lol @ lefties...when it looked like war they bitched, when it looked like peaceful negotiations they pissed and moaned, now theyre back to bitching about war again....jesus h christ...just pick a stance both cant be true.
     
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    You guys are using the word “stupid” almost as much as “racist” to describe anything related to Trump. Can you grow up a bit? Or is that too much to ask?

    Calling any POTUS “stupid” shows how little you think you know, mainly because you assume to know so much about everything, which is usually what the most uninformed among us tend to do, which is to shoot their mouths off and name call.
     
  13. fiddlerdave

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    Pence and Bolton publically and specifically announced that America's agenda was to take away Libya nuclear plans by:

    1.Make promised to provide defense complete to Gaddafi from the enemies in the countries around him indefinitely

    2. Provide nuclear materials needed for peacetime used

    3. Provide trade and subsidy to make Libya a prosperous country!

    Sadly, after a few years, America got a little busy with other wars and abandoned Maghafdy, so very quickly Gaddafi beaten by the surrounding forces and Gaddafi, without nukes and American support, was captured with with a iron bar rammed in his butt and drug through the streets to death!

    This was specifically referred by Pence and Bolton publically as "The Libyan Solution" for Kim to receive from America!

    Oddly, Kim has rejected Trump's "The Libyan Solution"!

    Can't figure why...:lol:
     
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    There is no better word to use!

    But I am not saying Trump is stupid most of the time!

    It was NOT stupid for Trump, Pence, Bolton, etc. because they are not stupid! They have NO intention of getting a "deal" with Kim, just like they had no intention of making a deal with Iran.

    The only stupid people is anyone who actually thinks Trump, Pence, Bolton, etc. "want peace"!

    Trump has been provoking war, Bolton has been demanding war, Pence and Bolton just insultingly told Kim he should try this crazy "deal", just as Trump just BROKE America's "deal" with Iran!

    Look at this thread! It took 10 seconds for Trumpettes to say "well, America tried" before Trump gave up! Not even a counter offer!

    The only the people who are "stupid" is any people take these joke games as serious desire to America to avoid attacking North Korea or Iran.
     
  15. The Mello Guy

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    And you all cheered every development lol
    Stop pretending you’ve got some higher ground.
    Most of us knew this half assed diplomatic approach was going to blow up in his face
     
  16. AlphaOmega

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    lol..How clueless is the left? Do you honestly think this is over? This is just the beginning of this negotiation. Seriously what do you guys think...everyone just walks away? Lol kim has two choices denuke or wind up like other dictators. Trump did exactly the right thing. Wait and see. This post will be proven correct.
    Prediction tag.
     
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    A power vacuum in NK is not desirable. There are no clear successors who would be agreeable to the West. There are only three options:

    1. The status quo.

    2. All out war and the installation of an interim government.

    3. A diplomatic solution.
     
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    Another great prediction, Mello? lol

    Chairman Xi Jinping Responds: North Korea says it is still willing to talk with US “at any time” and in “any format”
    Posted on May 24, 2018 by sundance
    The MSM is insufferable in their intentional disconnect of the dynamic behind the North Korean denuclearization talks. It was Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping who brought the DPRK to the table; and it was Chinese Chairman Xi Jinping who pushed North Korea away from the table in their manipulative efforts to extract trade concessions. Every other review of the geopolitical gamesmanship is chaff and countermeasures.

    (Via AP) – North Korea says it is still willing to sit down for talks with the United States “at any time, at any format” after President Donald Trump abruptly canceled his planned summit with Kim Jong Un.

    Vice Foreign Minister Kim Kye Gwan issued a statement Friday saying North Korea is “willing to give the U.S. time and opportunities” to reconsider talks.


    Kim says North Korea’s “objective and resolve to do our best for the sake of peace and stability of the Korean Peninsula and all humankind remain unchanged.”

    Kim is calling Trump’s decision “unexpected” and “very regrettable,” and says the cancellation of the talks shows “how grave the status of historically deep-rooted hostile North Korea-U.S. relations is and how urgently a summit should be realized to improve ties.” (link)

    https://theconservativetreehouse.co...o-talk-with-us-at-any-time-and-in-any-format/
     
  19. Gatewood

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    So our leftists and RINOs instead want Trump to pull a Obama/Kerry and give the store away to North Korea like the two of them gave it away to Iran? It sure looks that way. It begs the question of what is wrong with such people that they are only happy when the United States is on its knees.
     
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  20. Gatewood

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    The North Korean leader is probably too well protected against assassination attempts for one of those to work.
     
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    Yes, but apparently leftists are never psychologically comfortable unless they have got the United States on its knees sucking off some petty little dictator or thug somewhere. That's apparently how they rock and roll where diplomacy is concerned.
     
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    You mean Trump should have been like Obama and meet with no preconditions and preferably on his knees as well? Fortunately, however, Trump is not a typical leftist.
     
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    Actually I recall leftists of the day excreting bricks when Reagan talked about the Evil Empire of the Soviet Union. Tears and Tampax minded Leftists SHRIEKED that Reagan was about to start World War III.
     
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    See post #18

    It's really simple
    .
    Announcement of meeting with Kim: Criticize Trump
    Announcement of potentially de-nuking the Korean peninsula: Criticize Trump
    Announcement of meeting cancellation: Criticize Trump
    Announcement of meeting back on: Criticize Trump

    Being a lefty is easy.
     
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    That it is. There is after all no actually thinking involved. One merely follows the leftist politburo's marching orders.
     
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