Trump Pulls US Out Of Iran Deal

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  1. Giftedone

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    1) you understate the influence of the US and understate how loath the UN is to criticize the US.
    2) "whine heard round the world" is not hyperbole - unfortunately. Our current representative Nikki Halley is worst than most.
    3) The UN is not perfect - nor is it completely unreliable. The US has ignored the UN charter on human rights - violated international law, used chemical weapons and supported the use of chemical weapons .. and so on. Should the US not be allowed a voice ?
     
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    In fact the majority of UN members, and leftists everywhere, go into a snit whenever they're criticized. A good example of that is Trump calling many of them 's---thole countries' (if he did) despite that being a common onservation. .
    Nikki Haley is just what the US, and the UN, needed. She could be the first female President and, unlike Hillary (speaking of whiners), would be far better qualified.
    This leftist habit of blaming the US for the world's problems while ignoring other countries is provincial and bigoted. Do you feel that the people of Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, etc. enjoy more freedoms and human rights than Americans? This is just silly.
     
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    Nikki Haley is an ignorant puppet clown of the Establishment.

    Then you drift into some weird strawman in relation to Cuba and Haiti enjoying more freedoms and human rights than Americans. I never said any such thing.

    I did not mind Trump referring to some nations as sh-holes. Kind of dumb on the political state but, its the Truth. Its the lies, hypocrisy and false narrative that irritates me.
     
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    Do you genuinely believe that ad hom attacks support whatever case your trying to make?
    I know what you said. In fact I quoted it and them asked you a question which, apparently. you're unable to answer. And yet you called Nikki Haley 'ignorant'. Do you understand the irony here?
     
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    This picture shows very good what had happened in 1972 in Munich. When the Palestinians broke the peace of the Olympic games in 1972 in Munich in an unbelievable act of barbarism they declared not only war on Bavaria - they declared war on all civilizations and all cultures of the world. As far as I know Palestinians are still today proud on this deed.

    Let me tell you in this context that the policemen of Bavaria had at this time of history - don't be astonished now - the order to give every guest of Bavaria, who shows an aggressive behavior, some flowers - so this guest was able to see that aggressions are not good.

    I guess you are not really from Sweden, aren't you? Are you a Palestinian on your own?

     
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    What question did I not answer ?
     
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    Hello, and welcome to Earth. As you will soon learn, the Human life forms on Earth are very complex and very confused animals, who, although possess somewhat more intelligence than the rest of life forms on Earth, are prone to relapsing into their primitive prehistoric animal behavior.
     
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    That's funny : )

    Other than that, I think the main source of the differences -if there's any- between the political perspectives of the US and the EU is has a lot to do with where their political evolution have brought them to.

    The US political structure is already framed with federalism under presidential system whereas the EUs got tons to be done to catch up with. This creates the perspective differences. I guess the EU can't be blamed for the dissimilarities because it hasn't even been a century since its multinational, yet central, governance found a legitimate base. And also the EU has to deal with larger populations whilst DC had dealt with much smaller British and European colonies.
    Therefore, the EU today needs more flexibility in certain laws and regulations to make integration (actually "assimilation" as Kasich put straightforwardly) possible on a much broader scale. So they basically got two options:
    A) Abolishing the EU, and B) Keeping up with the globalist vision that provides them with necessary grounds to push for measures favoring the integration.

    However the same EU meanwhile has to deal with some tougher problems like finding a solution for growing uncontrolled nationalism from within which was obviously triggered by the Russian expansion, and losing potential markets in the middle east that are vital for European socioeconomic growth and its sustainability.

    So, I'm not against any criticism of the EU regarding it's political position today but I believe they have some seriously good reasons for having such posture.

    Good day...
     
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    The Bavarian police were Scheiße. All of the hostages were killed.
     
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    Not to mention that the Palestinians had a legitimate gripe. If you are starving you will eat. If you decide to eat your children instead of your dog, well that's a matter of morals ... not one of hunger. You MUST eat and how you decide to do that is up to you and how hungry you are. The Palestinians had something important to say. If we don't like their method of saying it then maybe Israel should provide a better alternative for them.
     
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    Sitz! Pscht!

     
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    That's all pretty much BDS BS, there is no discussion in Israel about re-conquer Gaza which could be the only thing close to mass killing in that place but even if that happens it wont be genocide, the Palestinians and Israelis are divided by Oslo agreement, they have large areas of no entry to Israelis including military and they cant go into Israel without permit, that's a divide between two future countries not based on racism but on two ethnic countries, if the BDS is worried about that they can (kindly) screw themselves.

    The only party here that gains from death is your Hamas because all those deaths dont contribute to the demise of the Palestinian ppl in genocide terms, if anyone is planning a "final solution" its them by some kind of mass event that will either kill Israelis or kill Palestinians.
    Yes but burning fields, throwing rocks and flaming bottles and trying to break the border where civilians live - is not innocent nor peaceful, non of them lived in that area and there are no "homes" to return to, the area outside Gaza strip is Israeli land, its not and will not be their country, it's our country.
     
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    Its evident you didn't understand.....you say its not growing quickly. Yet its growing a fact you can't get around. Same deal with wages rising. They are still rising.

    But I do get a chuckle out of those that stand in front of the microwave and say.....cmon, hurry up. :lol:
     
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    "****" is not a good word in this context. It shows only your own personal moral deficit now. As far as I remember it was not Bavaria - the federal republic of Germany overtook. Whatever. We - Bavarians and/or Germans - heard this days the first time in history that Palestinians are not Jews but Arabs - and indeed we made practically everything wrong what we were able to do wrong. We had absolutely no plan about what terrorism is. This changed very fast with the RAF terrorists (made from the Commies, trained from the Palestinians). In Mogadishu we were later even able to free a kidnapped plane - and also the Israeli were impressed. The worst mistake in Munich 1972 was not to give the whole operation in the hands of Israel. They were experienced. But we had the hope to be able to solve the problem without killed people. And we were much to squeamish because of our own sovereignty. Perhaps you understand it better in this way: We were as surprised as Norway was surprised in Utoya. But Norway is right: We should never give up our own values, who ever tries to force us to do so.

    And would you now please try to explain me, why you try to see in me your enemy, only because my country and I do not agree with the politics of Mr. Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanjahu in context with the Iran and the politics of the Iran in context with Israel?

     
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    Yeah not many like him period. That's even in Chicago, hence his getting out.

    As long as they go thru the legal process. There shouldn't be any problem.
     
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    I guess you don't know where München is. It is the capital city of Bayern. But maybe you are only looking at the pictures and not reading the text.:gallery:

    That's OK for you but I am not interested. Bye!
     
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    U-huh.
    "Yes, but ... " That's what your Nazis said when it was pointed out that the Jews of Europe contributed greatly to the depth of culture, particularly music, film, literature, and theatre. And here you are repeating it again, "Yes, but ... " > > >


     
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    The Nazi crap wont help your Gazans, that sums up our short debate here.
     
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    Why always only intrigant ways? Why for heavens sake are you not able to say what's your nationality and what are your own ideas? Why to say such stupid things like a Bavarian would not know where Munich is? In September for example Munich is in the near of the Oktoberfest. And because everywhere in the world are big and little Oktoberfeste Munich is somehow everywhere in the world too.

     
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    A: "The Germans lost the war because of the Jewish generals."
    B: "The Germans had no Jewish generals."
    A: "That's why."
     
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    Your double-talk won't help your Nazis, but you just carry on and see for yourself.
     
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    Oh dear, threats on the state of Israel, how shocking and original :)
     
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    Supporting your Nazis won't serve you well in the end. Anyway, it's not me you need to worry about - I am standing last in the queue.
     
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    Why always only intrignant ways? Why to say such stupid things like a Swede would not be from Sweden?
     
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