Trump refuses to call out Neo-Nazis/White Supremacists

Still supporting violence huh? I am not surprised.

 

It has happened before but without a death. When unruly mobs gather without a permit and take over city streets problems arise.

 

SO your issue is PERMITS?

Not the racism these alt right white supremacists are espousing?

Figures

 

Fake Outrage.

 

So far on the news the only thing called out by democrats is their disdain for free speech. No mention of the left wing violence.

 

Nice that you could take time out from attending Klan meetings to post here for us

 

All of the above!

 

In other words- he needs to agree with you.

The presidency has always been a somewhat thankless job, with people whose base of information about an issue is a tiny fraction of what leaders are aware of demanding that leaders use the same mentality they do. Regardless of what a president says, one side or the other will do their best to tar and feather him for it. No matter that their own conduct makes them look like extremists- they demand that in addition to a proper response, there must be proper labels. Of course if the president uses certain terms to please one side, the the other called him racist/extremist/wimp/warmonger/coward or whatever pops into their head. There is no winning choice- only those who become angry if they are not placated by the president using the right labels. Funny how the right of free speech (for others of course, not you) goes out the window so quickly when anyone advocates something you personally don't approve of.

I certainly don't approve of either side in this mess, and I agree that the people you want tarred and feathered are wrong and the primary cause of the incident. Of course, it takes two angry sides to make a mess like this. If nobody paid any attention to the original demonstrators- if they found themselves playing to an empty house- that would have been total defeat. But, the good guys couldn't allow that, they jumped up and added the fuel needed to make the event into a violent physical confrontation and incite even more extreme motivations. There is a time to object to situations like this, and a time to ignore them and let them fail on their own. Poor decisions made here, and both sides made it happen.

Trump Has come down firmly on the side of right and justice. Sessions has initiated a fed investigation and possible terrorist motives are being investigated. But failing to instantly brand the participants with the label you desire before the dust settles- sounds a lot like the old west lynch mob mentality.

 

And yet today, their religious day, they will be all across the country (but particularly in the south); the right wing white christianists nesting in their Madrasa listening to right wing preachers spew hate

 

Charlottesville mayor on Trump: 'Look at the campaign he ran'

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/politics/charlottesville-mayor-michael-signer-cnntv/index.html

 

Yes, James Fields seems to be identified as a white supremacist, however antifa were violent and started it all by attacking the alt-right with maize so it's not clear whether it was murder or not. Maybe he was just trying to drive off antifas attacking his car and it turned out badly.

Even if it was murder, it would still not be terrorism. The regressive left's intent to invent "white terrorism" out of the blue to make a false equivalence with Muslim terror is really sad apologetics.

There is no agenda of "white terror". This guy, Dylann Roof or whatever are individuals acting on their own accord, with no clear ties to "white terrorist" organizations - not that any exist in the first place. All the WN press explicitly discourages their members from violence since it harms their cause (the exact opposite of terrorism, btw). They can't even be considered lone wolves, since ISIS has specific instruction books for lone wolf terrorists, which they use, that's why they're considered parts of an agenda. Show me an instruction book for white terrorists please, or anything that ties them to a white terror agenda

Trump does not call out Nazi terrorism because there's no evidence that it's Nazi terrorism. We don't know the motive yet. Trump called out violence and hate, from both sides of the encounter, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

If the Alt-Right stoops to BLM's level that would indeed be a pretty big problem, but there's no reason to believe that for now.

 

It is fairly obvious that Trump has attracted right wing extremists from anarchists to the bigots, the alt-right, even the KKK and David Duke. In addition he attracted the white blue collar workers without a college education who blame Washington for all their troubles.

Today, Trump supporters point out that Trump has rejected the KKK, but when did he reject the KKK? Nov.2, 2016, the election was all but over with most of the voters having made their decision. A good many of them had already voted. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/2/donald-trump-campaign-rejects-support-of-repulsive/

Then there is Steve Bannon.

BANNON HAS EMBRACED THE ALT RIGHT, A LOOSE NETWORK OF WHITE NATIONALISTS AND ANTI-SEMITES.
The alt right is a loose network of individuals and groups that promote white identity and reject mainstream conservatism in favor of politics that embrace implicit or explicit racism, anti-Semitism and white supremacy. Often by leveraging social media and the Internet, alt right adherents express opposition to multiculturalism, immigration and often claim that there is a Jewish conspiracy to advocate for “white genocide.”

Bannon “proudly” told a reporter at the 2016 Republican National Convention “we’re the platform for the alt right.” In the same interview in Mother Jones magazine, he denied that the alt right is inherently racist or anti-Semitic, although a vast majority of people affiliated with that movement hold racist and anti-Semitic views.

https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/stephen-bannon-five-things-to-know

Bannon is Trump's senior advisor.

 

The ku klux clan and neo nazi militias have been lurking in the woods for years, occasionally engaging in their ugly agenda when
they are able to conjure up a reason. This was terrorism, or whatever you prefer to call it. Definitely a hate crime, and going to the prom in full regalia with weapons, speaks to their purpose, which was to engage in physical violence.

 

Ironic, isn't it. That an organization called the "anti-defamation league" engages, itself, in defamation.

"Alt-Right" is a word that changed meanings drastically. Back in the days, it used to mean anti-SJW's who supported Trump. Milo, for example, was often called leader of the alt-right. Milo said back then, rightfully so, that only 5% of the "alt-right" was racist. Milo fans are MAGA patriots who enjoy bashing feminists and oppose illegal immigration (wow, literally Hitler).

Now, "alt-right" means "white nationalists and neo-nazis". The term was taken back by the likes of Richard Spencer, who call the Milo wing "Alt-Light" to make fun of them. Hence my nickname.

Bannon and Milo represent Breitbart, and are "Alt-lite".

They're civic nationalists. Nothing to do with racism. So is Trump. Don't confuse the two.

The KKK was indeed a terrorist organization. You know, back when it existed.

Even the "hate crime" charge is not valid IMO. I don't think killing an antifa white woman for her political beliefs qualifies as a hate crime.

Probably will be second-degree murder. Maybe even just manslaughter.

 

The white supremacists want apartheid in America.

 

It's just an excuse. We had plenty of good, fully assimilated American Muslims and reputable scholars that could have back grounded us better. There would have been no need to penetrate a conflicting culture where we have no true friends had we not been so lax in protecting our own borders..

 

Baloney.

We want the Left to stop pumping angry victim fantasies into our AfAm population. It endangers any whites living or working in our core cities, not to mention the police.

 

Obama refused to call the Jihadists Muslims because non-Jihadist Muslims do not consider them to be Muslim, just like most Christians do not consider the Westboro Babtist Church to be Christian, and he was trying to keep from alienating vital allies against ISIS and other jihadist groups. The funny thing is that this is the same thing Bush did back in 2002. He made it clear that the Al Queda was not a Muslim group, but used a corrupt form of Islam to draw supporters. Conservatives had no issues with this. But once Obama did the same thing, it became wrong.

The neo-nazis and other white supremacist groups have called for this types of violence for years. It's in their rhetoric. The only reason Trump refuses to condemn them is because they make up 90% of his base. He can't win reelection without them. If he calls them out, they don't vote for him, and write in someone else, and he loses in 2020.

 

Trump won millions of votes. I doubt there are that many Neo-Nazis.

 

What silence?


President Trump:

Above all else, we must remember this truth: No matter our color, creed, religion, or political party, we are all Americans first. We love our country, we love our God, we love our flag, we're proud of our country, we're proud of who we are.​

Anyone disagree?

 

I said his base. His base is made up primarily of the alt-right. The KKK, neo-nazis, etc....Guys who dream of sucking off Hitler basically. These are who he was pandering too when he did things like call all Mexican immigrants rapists and drug mules and said Muslims should have to wear special badges to identify them in public ( the Nazis loved that one). The KKK did a lot of campaigning for him actually. Many of the people who attacked protesters at his rallies have been confirmed to be white supremacists as well.

 

90%.

:facepalm:

These progs are detached from reality.

 

Keep derping it up.

 

Those on the left are trying to make that case. Sorry, but I simply don't believe it. Trump's base are all those voters who want to have the interests of the United States looked after. That's a large, solid base that includes a good number of Democrats who were supportive of Obama in '08 and '12.

 

No one buys that asinine and highly antagonistic and divisive claim. These leftists don't want unity if they continue to alienate millions of Americans with their hateful rhetoric.

No, leftists, you will NOT win friends and heal nations by calling a major party candidate's base "people who dream of sucking off Hitler".