Trump says China trade deal might have to wait for 2020 election

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  1. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

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    open borders

    free healthcare for all

    healthcare for illegals

    free homes for the homeless

    promising Russia more flexibility after an election

    accusing Trump of the very things Democrats are doing and bragging about on video

    We have the lowest unemployment in decades and the stock market is higher than ever in spite of Democrat efforts.
     
  2. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I noticed you still didn’t answer the question.

    This is very difficult for you isn’t it?
     
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    s002wjh Well-Known Member

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    I said it before the trade war is gonna last 10+ years. oh don't forget NK, trump best buddy is lunching more missile test recently.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    hilarious, do you do a standup special? can I find it on netflix? its gold jerry, gold!
     
  5. HumbledPi

    HumbledPi Well-Known Member

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    It's sad that you can be so naive.
     
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    The average American simply buys made in China.
    The American businesses move their factories to China.
    So I dunno why you're blaming political parties over this.
    It's a side effect of being free what you want to do.
     
  7. Texan

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    Of course he'll have a shot. Have you seen your far leftist clown car?
     
  8. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    How exactly does China have the upper hand? Do we need China more than they need us? And what would you suggest, cave to China's demands in order to secure a deal, any deal?
     
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    I agree. China will be interfering in our election most likely to throw the election to the Democrats, since they know a Democrat will just roll over and return to the pre-Trump trade era.
     
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    And what does Russia have to do with Gabbard. She is not welcoming foreign involvement and proposed a bill that would have paper ballots for the next election to minimize potential impact.

    She as a member of congress serving on the foreign relations committee and the armed services committee has every right to go boots on the ground anywhere the US is spending money or is in conflict. And again she was with Rep Kucinich and it was not a secret meeting.

    If russia was such a enemy why did Clinton at state authorize the sale of 20% of our uranium to russia. Why did the Clinton foundation then get 145mill from those same Russian investors?

    Now when Pelosi visited Assad she was even more critical of bush than Gabbard was of Obama. Or maybe you think that you don't critize a president of your own party and just the other guys? That is one of the things that is so wrong with politics now,
     
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    The ones currently polling higher than him, yes — yes I have.

    Y’all must have a pretty bad candidate when all five of the democratic front runners from the clown car are beating him...
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s cute, y’all are already prepping for “but China” to go along with your chants of “coup”, “illegals”, “deep state” and “but her emails”.
     
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    I'll just dismiss the old Uranium One conspiracy theory since it was debunked years ago. You really should try to keep up with the news a little more.

    Experts who track websites and social media linked to the Kremlin have seen what they believe may be the first stirrings of an upcoming Russian campaign of support for Gabbard. Since Gabbard announced her intention to run on Jan. 11, there have been at least 20 Gabbard stories on three major Moscow-based English-language websites affiliated with or supportive of the Russian government: RT, the Russian-owned TV outlet; Sputnik News, a radio outlet; and Russia Insider, a blog that experts say closely follows the Kremlin line. The CIA has called RT and Sputnik part of "Russia's state-run propaganda machine."

    All three sites celebrated Gabbard's announcement, they defended her positions on Russia and her 2017 meeting with Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad, and attacked those who have suggested she is a pawn for Moscow. But Gabbard's most controversial position and the one where she's most in line with Russian interests is on Syria. RT began defending Gabbard as soon as she announced.
     
  14. HumbledPi

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    In a few words, yes... we do. "Deals" are not made with love letters and words of affection. Deals are made diplomatically with diplomats that know N. Korea, that know how China and Russia interact with N. Korea and affect what Kim Jong Un ultimately does. It's not an easy fix as Trump thought it would be, it's much more complicated and it's something that can only be remedied through diplomatic channels.
     
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  15. Lil Mike

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    No it's a thing.

    China Covertly Subverting Trump Reelection

    China is conducting an aggressive disinformation and influence campaign designed to block the re-election of President Trump in 2020, according to a dissident Chinese billionaire who until recently was close to senior Beijing leaders.
     
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    Huh, I did ask if you thought we should cave in to China, but I didn't exactly expect you to say yes. I thought you would have a "no but..."

    That's interesting. So to you, it's already over, China owns us and we should obey our masters. I hope the Democratic nominee runs on this. If the nominee is Bloomberg or Biden, that seems a surety.
     
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    Did I say we should 'cave in to China' ? Please copy and paste that for me if you claim that I've said that. Do that, I'll wait. Did you even READ all that I typed or just skipped it all to get to what you wanted to say?
     
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  18. cd8ed

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    I find it crazy that we have one national enemy trying to get him elected and another one trying to keep him from being elected.

    What type of disinformation are they spreading, any examples — your source didn’t provide any.
     
  19. Texan

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    Polls haven't been very accurate. Look at 2016 on the day before election day.
     
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    You asked multiple questions, remember?
    My answer to the bolded is:
    "Yes, we do"
     
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    The polls that were off by less than 80k votes split between three states?
    Virtually every poll showed her with a popular vote of 1-7% (she won by 2.1%, 3-4% is typically MOE)
    Virtually every poll has updated their polling metrics to account for nonresponse bias
     
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    If Russia was such an enemy why did we let them buy into a uranium mining operation wheter it has 10% or 20% like I refered to. The Obama /Clinton team could have stopped it and didn't. Clinton also did not disclose that the donations to the foundation were of Russian origin, even if they did come thru a Canadian front. She knew where the money came from.

    And again who cares if she is a person that the russians favor over trump, mayor pete or Booker. The Russians don't want to spend trillions on defense and Tulsi does not want the US to continue spending like we have on the military. If you somehow think that Mayor pete has a better feel for foreign affairs than a congreesman that has served for 6 years on two of the most defense orientated committes in congress, have a go at it.
     
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    I asked, "And what would you suggest, cave to China's demands in order to secure a deal, any deal?"
    Your response, "In a few words, yes...we do."

    If you didn't actually mean the words that you actually wrote, don't blame me for accepting what you wrote at face value.
     
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    And yet her 90% chance of winning the White House didn't pan out.
     
  25. Lil Mike

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    It's still early in the election season for the incumbent president. But when the time comes, I'm sure you'll be here spreading whatever the Chinese want us to think.
     

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