Trump says he's open to taking Greenland by military force

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  1. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Of course you conveniently left out part of the question, "military or economic force" . You guys kill me, talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. You would think he disclosed bombing plans.
     
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    What difference does that make? Does the fact that he has also not ruled out economic force mean that he has ruled out military force?
     
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    So you think he should rule everything out and let China have it, they're trying, should we not? Economic force could be buying them.
     
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    Denmark is a joke!
    What does Denmark give NATO beyond lip service?


    No purchase
    Just Do It

    similar to Hawai'i or this attached clip





    And any resistance will experience more
    21st century means A-10's & attack helicopters..
     
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    He isn’t taking either off the table.
    If he can’t compel Denmark to hand over Greenland through economic force, would you support military force?
     
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    Are you sleeping under a stone? Greenland doesn't belong to USA or China, it belongs to Denmark. And it's the Denish and the Greenlandish people who solely will decide what to happen with their own country. Do you mind how arrogant and insulting your words are? Listen: If they will decide to give Greenland to Madagascar or Lesotho or Chile or China, your reaction shall be: What a pity!
     
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    Ok, so you essentially just proved my point. You assumed something Trump didn't say. Why would you assume those things.
     
  8. hawgsalot

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    No kidding, wow who knew lol. Now show us how you know what my reaction would be, are you god?
     
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    Are you disputing that Trump said he would not commit to ruling out the use of military force to take Greenland? Because that’s exactly what he said.

     
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    It doesn't seem like many people are thrilled:
     
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    Which scenario do you think is most likely to happen:
     
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    The most realistic scenario: NATO-memberstates will place parts of their armies in Greenland. Better before paid MAGA-caps pray to Messiah T., but even after that it would be even more effectiv.
     
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    I hope this works:
     
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    First of all, it's a lie that Trump said he wants to take Greenland by military force.

    But second, Greenland only has less than 70,000 residents, which is less than the number of illegal aliens that sneak into the U.S. every 2 days.
     
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    I knew Truman had wanted to buy Greenland but had no idea the issue was this complicated:
     
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    Denmark to Trump: Let's Make a Deal?

    • 'In the messages passed to the Trump team, the Danish government made clear Greenland was not for sale but expressed readiness to discuss any other U.S. request regarding the island, the sources said.
    • The U.S. already has a military base on Greenland and an agreement with Denmark dating to 1951 on defending the island, under which an increase of U.S. forces could easily be discussed.
    • Danish officials have already said they are looking into further measures to increase investment in military infrastructure and capabilities in Greenland, in consultation with the Greenlandic government.'
    Danes are also upping their defense expenditures, which Trump has been encouraging all of our allies to do.
     
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    And yet when he talks of military force you say he is joking. This man is dangerous and I can assure up you one thing - this time workd leaders will not just be laughing at him. Global news networks are already floating barring him from the G 7
     
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    The already were, before Trump said he wants to take Greenland, and refused to rule by military force off the table. Mexico was already beefing up border things. Canada did increase border measures in response to Trump, but was already doing a lot of it, and would have done more at any request by the US, threatening or otherwise; that border is actually more of a threat in the opposite direction (gun and drug smuggling from the USA).

    I said it before, and I will say it again, Trump is saying what he's saying in an attempt to later take credit for things that are mostly happening anyway.
     
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    It is now and always Trump feeding his own ego
     
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    He was asked a hypothetical if he would EVER consider using military force, like if China made a move, not IS he considering it or as an attack on Denmark. Of course you leave all options open just as with the Canal.
     
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    That's not what he said though. He said Greenland is essential to take. He was asked if he'd assure everyone he won't do it by "military or economic coercion" and he said he won't make that assurance. He was then asked that since he's considering military force against Greenland and Panama, how about Canada, and instead of correcting the question, he said no, only economic. He clearly understood and continues to understand that people think he made a theat. He's said nothing I'm aware to to clarify and correct that, yet. He clearly intends people to wonder if he may invade, or if he is joking. That's intentional. We can all see it. He'll later backpeddle it, but right now he wants to use that fear as a negotiating tactic.

    He could have simply said as you are now "No, we won't invade Greenland by force. We want to buy it, but if they want to stay apart from the USA, and won't make a deal, that's fine. We have a base there now and will stop other powers from threatening them and our other allies and interests in the area". Something like that is what a responsible person would have done, instead of answering something like "Will you conquer" with "Oh, maybe, hahaha".
     
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    Again, guy didn't say what you said he said. He said he's not going to tell you something, and you assumed the negative as you folks always do. You took it hook line and sinker. And then you whine about it when folks point out to you that you're wrong in your assumption. Your hunger to find anything to be outraged about Trump is exhausting.
     
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    It's not a matter of "finding" when he blasts his nonsense all over the global media. It was obvious the countries he threatens to attack would respond.
     
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    We don't pay their entire NATO Defense bill. Denmark has increased its military to around 2% of the GDP because of Russia as an extensial threat. We have tried to purchase Greenland since we purchased Alaska. The last time was Truman and we offered about $100 million or so, maybe more. Each and every time, Denmark has said no.

    If Greenland is for sale, who is to say Denmark will sell it to Russia or China or the Uk or even Germany. Would suck if Greenland is actually sold and it went to another country. Right?
     
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    Nothing in the article suggest or implies that independence would mean Greenland will become a US territory. Greenland inpendendence has been an ongoing movement for decades. But even that comes with risks outside of Trump thinkiing this is just another real estate deal. They already control their fishing and tourist industries. There is a ban on mining those resources and the people of Greenland probably want control of that too or at least decide when and who can drill there.
     

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