Trump says time for U.S. to recognize Israeli sovereignty over Golan

Well, let Armageddon begin.

 

BREAKING: President Trump Just Recognized the Golan Heights as Israeli Territory ....

President Trump announced Thursday afternoon the United States will officially recognize the Golan Heights as Israeli territory.


The announcement comes while Secretary of State Mike Pompeo meets with officials in Israel. Next week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will meet with President Trump at the White House......snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...ights-n2543498


Oh my.....the Anti Americans, Jew Haters, and American Leftness are going to blow a gasket. Expect screaming at the sky.

 

What a perfect way for Trump to turn attention away from his legal problems! Just start a war, yes?

 

Recognition of Israel's sovereignty over the Golan Heights, which has been occupied and administered by Israel since 1967, might be a requirement to trigger whatever obligations the US may have to defend Israel if Syria (and Iran) follow through on the recent threat to military try to recover the area. The legal situation in this region is complicated by 52 years of successful, continuous, open and notorious adverse possession by force and the threat of force, with the application of Israeli law and political administration, plus the militarily significant features of the elevated plateau. I doubt Syria has the military capacity to recover the Golan Heights or that Russia would help them, Iran might.

 

Sounds good, but I think it is a way for Trump to deflect attention from him and his problems.

 

What legal problems....you mean all those that the SDNY lost? The Mueller Investigation that has come up empty on Trump?

Did you mean all the investigations that the Demos have launched and will fail with?

More like Trump just found something else to cause the Lame Stream media to get caught up in their TDS. To cause the leftness to seek out more Pete Therapy, Coloring book sessions.

 

Golan is only two decades further removed from Syria than Alsace-Lorraine is from Germany.

They have no real claim on the land. They lost a war half a century ago, deal with it.

 

Demonizing anyone who disagree's with you and the Establishment narrative Trump is touting by calling them "anti american, jew haters and so on" is not how one wins friends and influences people - unless you want friends that are raging idiots.

 

Good, maybe now they can deal with those terrorists properly.

 

Highly unlikely that Iran would get involved and even more so on the part of Russia. I would not put this quite on par with the annexation of Kosovo in some respects but in other ways it is worse - in relation to international law. In the case of Kosovo there was at least quazi recognition by the UN although this set a questionable precedent. This precedent was used in the annexation of Crimea.

Annexation of the Golan would set the bar .. well - to the point where there there is little bar left. The UN has firmly rejected this action. To go ahead and reject the the entire international community is - to go ahead and reject that entire international community.

Should we just throw away the rule book such that it is all fair game .. might is right and too bad if the rest of the world doesn't like it ?

Will this make the world a better place ? I have my doubts but it is what it is. China has been eyeing up Taiwan and other regions .. perhaps they should just take them. Perhaps Russia should just go in and take back some of the former territories it used to own.

If the world leader can play fast and loose with the rules - why not other nations ?

 

The IDF are terrorists ?

 

What arabs do you suppose will attack?

 

I recall when the Golan Heights was taken and why they were taken. I think we all waited long enough for the Arabs to quit or get off the pot. And the Palestinians still spoil for the fight.

Yes Clinton illegally bombed former Yugoslavia laying the blame on NATO. NATO did not include Kosovo or did it represent Yugoslavia. It was an aggressive act of war.

We do not yet know the fate of Golan. But it might well be a basis of war.

 

Notice who has almost faded from the Democrats own media. What happened to the King of Jordan and what are his comments?

Assad is not able to capture Golan but apparently we have democrats wanting him to get back Golan.

 

Even if I agreed with your comments on the Golan - that would not change my point. Either we have a rules based system - and at least make some attempt to follow those rules - or we do not.

It would be one thing if most nations in the world agreed with the action and it was just the Muslim nations dissenting but, that is not the case. The situation is that every other nation "sans the US apparently" and perhaps one or two others that I am not aware of dissents.

Comments like "we all waited long enough for arabs to whatever" and/or "Palestinians are evil" have nothing to do with the issue of "The Rules".

This reminds me of the Judge Gorsuch affair - where you had the hardcore nazi fembot "me too" crowd parading around saying "All women should be believed".

Oh OK ... so women never lie .. Got it .. and on this basis we just throw out "innocent until proven guilty" .. throw out the rules. Why not .. hey .. who wanted those stupid rules anyway ... Right ?

 

I agree Russia not likely to get involved (it would be humiliating).

Very different situations, Kosovans sought self-determination, had historical ties and lacked self-government (they were justified).

Israel does reject the "international community", one gives as one takes and the "international community" has rejected Israel.

Your answer may depend on who you think has the might.

Traditionally, since the dawn of time, land may be acquired by conquest, this is what gives Putin the right to Crimea. At common law, continuous, open and notorious possession, claiming some right to do so, for a prescribed length of time, does confer title to the land.

The fact the Golan Heights are not just under military control, but that Israel administers the political and juridic affairs therein supports the claim the region is integrated within that country.

Every case has its own features, relevant factors include form of acquisition (by force of arms is well established), in occupation the continuity for over whatever is the custom in the region is very important, doing so as if entitled to is important, excluding challengers buttresses the claim, so does applying the law of the occupier. It is a fact-sensitive question.

Military capability?

 

All of them?

 

Well they are busy fighting for Assad. They seem very busy to me.;

 

Looks like you believe the news according to Hannity.

 

So the people living in the Golan Heights will have the same rights as those living in Israel?

Anyway, a step closer to the false flag attack to be carried out by Israel in order to invade Syria

 

There will be no war. Israel would leave Syria in ashes; a war would be suicide.

The map makers need to get to work.

 

This act is a huge error and is being done for political purposes. This makes it ok for Russia to annex Crimea, yes? Trump is playing right into his buddy Putin's hands, because if it is ok for Israel, then it is ok for Russia. So the mapmakers need to include The
Russian annexation and we need to lift sanctions immediately. This will only serve to make the Middle East more volatile.

 

Syria shouldn’t have gone to war with Israel in 1967.

 

Meh, the Leftness and Anti Americans along with the Jew Haters have been doing it for decades. Perhaps you should preach to them about that and then let them know. What goes around comes around. Especially if I am around.

 

Oh and here you still can't figure out that Hannity is nothing more than a Talk Show Host. So what do you think that say about you since you think of him as a news source.

At least he got that part Right about the SDNY losing its cases against Trump. Maybe you should check into your CNN and MSNBC News people and see if they managed to report on those losses. At least ABC, CBS, and NBC did.