Discussion in 'Immigration' started by Canell, Jun 18, 2019.
I say "Trump FTW" and God bless America!
I wouldn’t hold your breath, Trump tweeting that something is going to happen typically only gives around a 50/50 chance that it actually will. You’d be much better off relying on the official statements from the relevant government departments.
Yep ... God bless America! Aside the question which god it is ... because you have freedom of religion written in constitutiuon, so why should it be the Christian god?...
Will be interesting who will do these low paid jobs on farms as harvesting help or all these millions of other low paid jobs will do in the USA, which are done by these illegals currently.... because that these jobs will be much beter paid is also rejected by Trump!
Certainly not the German god - the devil - which you Germans sold out to.
Imagine that - the unemployment in the USA will be the lowest ... ever.
You mean Odin, Thor, Donar etc.?
Yawn ... I know ... again this bullcrap of Islam barabrian hoirdes etc., right? Well ... 6.5% of German population is Muslim,,, including these 850,000 Muslim refugees we took and where many have still left Germany.
Imagine that ... the farmers will have to let rot their stuff on the fields, because no US native is willing to do the job for this low payment as the illegals do... because is much money for them in their country!
Cut off welfare and they will work on the field. Good for the budget and good for the parasites.
And are you same way clever to get fact that of these 850,000 Muslim refugees have already 250,000 left our country ... voluntarily and also deported?
And are you so clever to understand that our governemnt made clear deals with force to the North African countries to take their people back who came as refugee with no asylum right. You know that the main problem was (and is) that Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia did not take their compatriots back if we wanted to deport them. Okay, we could have put them on a plane and dropped them off by parachute told some neo Nazi idiots... I know.
What welfare in the USA? Since when does the US have something which is worth to be called welfare?
If one of them can chose to work for low wage in an "Eat to Death Burger Station" or for same wage on a field ... what do you think where they prefer to work, eh?[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Same old tired excuse: What will the farmers do???? Only about 4% of illegals work in agriculture. Illegals make up only 1/4 of all people working in agriculture. The majority, 75%, of farm workers are Americans or legal immigrants. Removing illegals from farms would raise wages for American farm workers by 15 to 30%.
The threat of increased food prices if illegals are deported is used by the left as a reason for letting illegals in and letting them stay and soak up welfare money.
With every illegal that comes into this country, the country further declines either through decreased wages for Americans, increased social benefits expenditure, schools having to spend millions on ESL classes even for children born here to illegals, increased crime, divisiveness, gang violence. Illegals are good for no one but the left who wants them to vote democratic.
Sorry ... but the same old fairy tale that is heard over and over as justification.
If the farmers increase the salaries, then the food price increases ... thought of that too?
And the jobs that the illegals are doing have already existed before and how will it continue to exist. Formerly, it was poor legal immigrants and Indians from reservations, but they have now reached a higher lifestyle and no longer need the jobs. At the same salary, no American does the job and when it gets more expensive, it puts problems for the US economy, because it costs more and thus the prices are higher ... nobody wants that either!
And as for the alleged many criminals ... you know that all the stats from FBI, Homeland, and the local police are supporting this stupid lie by Trump? Trump has until today failed to prove this claim!
But it's probably like the cost of this idiotic wall Trump wants to build and where he never got tired of saying that it's paid by Mexico and not by the US taxpayer. And what is it now? The US taxpayer pays them and not a word when and how Mexico will pay as announced .... which is suddenly irrelavant for the "red MAGA hats" ...
who are generally in the mood for facts when they talk about Trump!
But to me as a Foreigner, this idiotic "American Comedy Show" does not really matter ... as long as it's within your borders and the idiot from Washington does not interfere with our stuff and spread lies.
There are far more than 12 million illegal aliens in the US
So Rueters is full of bad information
The crime rate would increase if all illegals left
Oh brother. lol. That must be because they are so law-abiding which is why they are standing at our border claiming asylum because of violence where they come from. The Washington Post comes up with some ridiculous stuff, but this takes the case.
How about ABCNews:
Or Business Insider :
Or USA today:
Now let's see your evidence
For example, from Honduras, where, with the blessing of the Obama administration, the democratically legitimized government was put out of office by the military by a coup because it was against some US interests. Funny ... since then, the country has become a total **** hole, thanks to the US, which, along with a few US puppets, are the only ones in the world who have recognized the current government in Honduras as the legitimate! and that people from there flee is of course unreasoned, eh?
Yes ... evil Obama was that ... but the current jerk in Whie House has no need to change what his predecessor messed up!
And I did not mess up that the illegal ones are not committing crimes ... but nothing confirms Trump's claims!
I for one hope this happens. These people are trespassers and as such need to be removed from the property they are on. That would be all property inside America in this case. It's about time.
you provided the evidence yourself.
from the abc news link.
6% illegals create 6% of homicides, that means if they are gone, we'd have 6% less homicides. (duly noted its only one crime of many and its a 4 year old bit of data)
But YES, using the same stat legal immigrants are less likely to commit homicide, by at least half, I wonder why that is, could it be because they entered here legally that they are generally law abiding people that appreciate being here?
those are pretty specific numbers.
It's so easy...stop the freebies and they will stop coming..I bet halfbthe ones deported find a way back in anyway....this isn't rocket science..politicians are dumb as shyt!
LOL you don't understand statistics! The crime rate would increase if all illegals left. Even using your cherry picked homicide stats would result in an increase in homicide rate if all illegals left because 6% is greater than 5.9% and an increase in homicide rate if all legal immigrants left because 10% is greater than 3.8%
so you prefer a slightly lower crime rate but more dead people?
I think we can agree to disagree on this subject.
Trump says U.S. agency will begin removing millions of illegal immigrants
According to a reporter familiar with this issue, Trump plans separating Latino families again, this time those already living inside the U.S. The reporter says Trump's plan is to wait until the children (Dreamers born in the U.S.) are in school & their illegal parents are at work, then send in the ICE brigades to arrest & deport the parents, leaving the children isolated & alone. If this is true, this will make America look to the world exactly like the Nazis with the Jews in the 1930s in Germany. That's an ugly human rights abuse I never want to see America be a participant in. I hope other forum readers agree.
Yes, it would be terrible for the American worker if wage rates rose because of a shortage of low skilled labor. Oh noes!
If you wanted to pick a fight, why didn’t you go to religion forum?
This is completely off topic.
Whatever, not a big deal. We might pay a bit more, so what? A farmer might also prefer to invest into a machines and reduce the number of people needed to do the manual work.
With all the hoopla from conservative Republicans about immigrants taking jobs away from American workers, you have posted a far more accurate reason those jobs are lost. The immigration issue is a manufactured, fake issue, created to create fear & anger & result in more votes for the Republican fear-mongers. But automation is the real culprit taking the jobs. We can't solve any problem by blaming it on the wrong cause.
The products being imported from china are made by humans not robots
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