Trump says U.S. agency will begin removing millions of illegal immigrants

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  1. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    And the products made in America are made by robots, not people.
    Funny how that works.
     
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    Trade agreements aren't one-sided. We sell goods to China as well--ask American farmers. You can't see only the negatives of an agreement. You have to see the whole thing. Agreements can be changed &/or updated over time. But Trump's method of simply withdrawing & attacking the other signers, is a losing proposition. Trump likes to regard himself as a great deal maker. But truly great deals satisfy the needs of all who sign on--not just America. Trump is no deal maker.
     
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    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unfortunately when it comes to illegal migrants you are forced to choose between compassion for them and love for country.

    Illegal immigration cause;

    strain on and eventual failing infrastructure
    lower wages
    squatting and eventual land shortages or potential land grabs (like in South Africa who let millions of illegals in and now want to take land from food producers)
    strain on health, education, transport and other support systems

    If you love your country you have to be firm and united on illegal immigration, to do otherwise will cause division and conflict internally
     
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    Wages increase too. So is the purchasing power of those workers. Maybe in Germany wage increases is a bad thing, here it’s usually perceived as positive news.
    Are you pretending to be stupid?
    Wage increase is a good thing! It stimulates the economy.

    Lately, you completely lost your ability to think rationally.
    What is the point of what Trump says? Who cares what he says? If an illegal immigrant rapes and or murders a US citizen then one logically can conclude that this whole event would never happen if an illegal alien was not allowed in the US in the first place.
    Is it really that hard to understand, or do you need a lobotomy? Or do you, Germans, need to be mass raped by Muslims to start to understand the concept?

    This wall has no affect on Germany whatsoever. It’s none of your business how my tax money is being spent. Mind your own German business and try to make sure your own government doesn’t give too many handouts to Africans and Muslims. Your culture suffers a lot more from immigrants than the American culture.

    Well, you just got yourself involved in a lot of stuff that does not concern you in any way, shape or form and you claim we interfere with your crap. Who is the hypocrite? It looks idiotic to me.
    Just admit it - German guy is a hypocrite!
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From what I hear the violence comes from two reasons. One the US encouraging regime change of violent people. In atrocities in Latin American countries the perpetrator is overwhelmingly the people who the US supported to get power against those who the people wanted. Added to that they are apparently suffering from the effects of climate disaster. This is going to get much much worse.
     
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    Deporting people costs money. I'd like to hear Dirty Donald say how much all of this will cost.

    Of course he doesn't know, nor is it important since it won't happen anyway. It's still fun to watch right-wingers get giddy like 13 year old girls over a tweet. Are you guys gonna have pillow fight next?
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes seems to be an interesting little game Trump has going on there. Encouraging hatred in order to get the vote. Seems to be a nice little earner for him. Neat little way for him to turn the anger people rightfully have over the effect neo liberalism has had on their lives over to the 'other'. The same rouse Corporate fascism always uses.
     
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    Automation is going to leave millions without a way to support themselves. It seems like a sci-fi novel but it is happening as we speak. There will be mass destitution. I'm luckily in an industry that makes it difficult to automate, but it is only a matter of time. Humans will be destroyed by their own creation.

    We need a real-life Sarah Conner.

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  10. Canell

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    It could cost almost nothing. Imagine that:

    DJ Trump warns illegals they have 2 months to get freely out of the country. After that, every illegal alien that is caught, will be imprisoned and after jail time deported where s/he came from.

    I think the queue for plane tickets will be long and air companies will make a lot of money. :)
     
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    So you think they will just leave with the warning? Wow.

    Catching them, then imprisoning them, then sorting out which country they go to, them shipping them there will be amazingly expensive. We are talking about millions of people. Don't you see the logistics of this?
     
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    No, I don't think so. I think most people don't want to be imprisoned even for a month, so they will **** by themselves.
    The state could confiscate their possessions to pay for the job, ya know? For example, you got a car, the state confiscates your car, sells it to buy you a one way ticket. If you don't like it, **** yourself before they sell your Camaro for a coupe of grands.
    Trespassers have no rights.
     
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    Sure ... wage increaes are good ... no doubts ... but then you have also to accept higher prices. And right this is a point which many people don't think about...
    I can still remember the amazing wondering of Americans here in this forum and in another one about the point that products which content steel like a washing machine "Made in USA" is suddenly more expensive ... or about a farmer that his John Deere harvester is suddenly more expensive. Both wake up when I gave the hint of "punitative tariffs on steel by Donald Trump" on steel imports has made the steel price much more expensive ... so... out of what are your named issues build again, eh?



    Your hint to mass raping Muslims is lame ...
    And your reasoning is too! To say 1 criminal illegal is 10 too much is stupid. What about those illegals who served as US soldier in Iraq ... why do you allow this please?



     
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    It is not off topic when someone here say God bless America, then it is topic ...


    Much of if, when and maybe ... to hide facts, eh?
     
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    So you think confiscating their possessions, then selling them, will pay for deportation? Logistics, buddy. You just keep saying things that don't add up. Keep on going though. I'm having a good laugh.
     
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    Tell me ... are you just playing the stupid or why do not you want to see 2 steps further?
    Are you ready for fruit and vegetables What is harvested with farm helpers = mostly the illegals to pay 20% more in the future?
    Do I still have to explain why this is going to happen?
     
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    Still plenty of green cards that can be used to bring them back legally. Besides, the US takes in ~ 1 million legal immigrants a year. How many of them would love to take the jobs illegals are doing, not to mention every farm that hires illegals is breaking the law.
     
  18. Canell

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    It's a traditional phrase, ya know?

    The main function of the state is to protect its citizens. That is, protection from criminals and foreign invasion.
    That's what taxes are collected for, too. If necessary, the taxpayer will pay the bill. Better yet, those Dems who let all those millions illegals in, but that's an utopia.

    It could be done.
     
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    I enjoys cheap lettuce, avocado, hot peppers......a hike in their price would shock America.

    That's the thing: Trump isn't serious about getting illegals out of this country. Companies depend on them. He just wants to rile up his base. If he were serious he would implement a system that punished employers of illegals. This stuff isn't hard to figure out.
     
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    Those DEMs that let them into the country? Are all the business owners that employ illegals DEMs? I'm done with you. Your worldview is very small. I assume you are in your 20s. You have a lot to learn. If you are older than that I offer you my sincerest condolence.
     
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    No, I am not, just not an American. I'm just speculating on your behalf. 8)
    Anyways, I don't think having tens of millions of criminals (because illegals are just that) is good for the country. It's hypocritical at least.
    Have a nice day/night. :date:
     
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    Agreed! :)
     
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    It's called the law and we already have a system to handle that, it's called law enforcement. Not too hard to figure out is it?
    https://cis.org/North/Its-About-Time-Employer-Hit-96-Million-Penalty-Hiring-Illegal-Aliens
    https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...inally-targeting-employers-of-illegal-workers
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tree-company-hit-with-95-million-fine-for-illegal-hiring/
     
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    It will cost a whole lot less than letting them stay here.
    https://www.irli.org/single-post/20...MIuMy_y4_14gIVUZJbCh31ywmnEAAYASAAEgL-bvD_BwE
     

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