Trump sees pandemic as blue states versus red states?

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member

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    Watch the video, the proper response.
     
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    If Trump was to blame, you have to admit that those who consistently call him a liar are extremely gullible. You would also have to admit that Dem leaders are as bad or worse, or that Dems don't trust their own elected officials. Also, using death and suffering for this purpose says more about you than Trump.

    "Coronavirus death toll is heavily concentrated in Democratic congressional districts"

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...trated-in-democratic-congressional-districts/
     
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    If Trump in February pushed Social distancing, testing, quarantine and mask wearing

    If Trump wore a mask in Public since February consistently

    USA deaths would have been under 20,000 ........... Trump would have had shown good Leadership

    Instead Trump Lied and dismissed the Virus ........... Failed as a Leader
     
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    Well he had to listen to the experts taht told him not to do that....a good leader listens to this experts on subjects, in particularly viruses.
     
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    Nice spin. He clearly stated the states were on their own and would only help if he had to.
     
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    I didn't spin anything...your conclusion makes no sense...since he created the Supply Chain Stabilization Task Force...to fix the concerns a handful of states were having.
    Problem solver...that's what leadership is all about and why there haven't been concerns since he put this Task Force in place
     
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    FEMA created it
     
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    Yeah..FEMA is part of the Trump Admin......Trump's their boss....The Admin created it....
     
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    I have metered internet. Can't watch internet videos.
     
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    So you ARE part of the participation trophy crowd.
     
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    Huh? Trump leads the admin....there was a problem, and his Admin addressed it.

    That's what leaders do, they find solutions to problems.
     
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    FEMA found a solution. So, using your logic, any work that I do the president of my company should get credit for, right???
     
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    Sure...you are the leader...why wouldn't you?

    Much like the DoD, specically the Navy took out Bin Laden...I still think Obama deserves credit for it...even though he phyiscally wasn't on the ground...it was his admin that did it. He was the leader
     
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    Not even close. That information was available prior to that date. You would have to admit that those who constantly call him a liar, trusted him on this issue.

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    The president of my company doesn’t take credit for others work. That’s how a leader is supposed to act. But again, I’m not into participation trophies like you are.
     
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    hahaha

    so Trump really shouldn't get credit for anyting...no president should...since it's the Admin that's doing the work...yeah....there was a problem as you highlighted, what did yoiu want the President to do? Physically drop off PPE? No, he had FEMA handle the problem...and it was addressed.

    That's what leaders do...they get solutions to problems. I don't expect the President to take credit for the daily opertations of people on the Task Force....just as I don't expect the President of your company to ttake credit for he clean floors in the bathroom...but if the bathroom was dirty and people complained and he addressed the problem...he should get credit for it addressing the issue
     
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    Experts have pushed Social distancing, testing, quarantine and mask wearing

    Mask wearing was held off due to lack of supplies in the beginning ........... after masks were available Experts said it was necessary

    Trump has misinformed and Lied to Americans from the very beginning

    203,500 dead Americans due to Trumps inaction
     
  20. Patricio Da Silva

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    The video is 1 minute 40 seconds. Disable it for that amount of time. I believe you can switch if you are in windows.
     
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    yeah and the president has pushed it when they did
     
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    So based on your logic, if Trump gets credit for saving lives then he should get the blame for the lives lost due to COVID, right?
     
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    no the virus killed them and was projected to kill two million americans but the president has acted and we aren’t anywhere close to that.

    if however you are going to blame him, the. you have to credit him for saving millions. I give the admin credit for taking steps to prevent the virus from having its full impact
     
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    I don’t blame him for any COVID deaths :D
    I also don’t give him credit for more not dying. Let’s be honest, if he had his way there would have been no social distancing, masks, shut downs, etc.
     
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    Because virus follow concentrated populations, viruses don't care if you are a dem or a repub. The fact that most urban areas tend to be black,, poor, minority ( democrat ) is what is known as an incidental fact. "Correlation is not causation", as it were. It could be, but a simply foray into logic dictates that it's not.

    Because......if your logic held.

    I suppose meat packing plants, many riddled with the virus, where workers work in close quarters, would be run by democrats.

    I doubt it.

    Brilliant logic there, Doofus.

    And, note that Trump pressured many of those plants to stay open.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-...-keep-meat-processing-plants-open-11588099443


    Trump isn't to blame for where the virus is concentrated, (except where he took executive action) but his failure to act quickly caused the trajectory to climb earlier than it could have, which, down the road, reaches higher heights, overall, in later months.
     
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