Trump should NOT get credit for black unemployment rate

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  1. BarleyPopGuy

    BarleyPopGuy Banned

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    Except the unemloyment rolls are at an all time low, food stamp receiptients are at an all time low more jobs available than people to fill them, yeah, Trump sux!
     
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    I am a conservative. I complained about the low labor participation rate during Obama and I see no reason to stop now.

    A correction. We have more jobs than people who want to fill them.
     
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    So explain to me how you equate lower unemployment checks being written to the low labor participation rate?
     
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    Unemployment checks are dependent on looking for work. The labor participation includes both those working and those looking for work.
     
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    Sorry but posting a few graphs proves nothing. Correlation does not equal causation. Please do a better job of supporting your silly claims in the future.
     
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    either way, Trump wins....you can lie to yourself if ya want.
     
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    Not true. If you notice the deficit dropped every year under Obama. The debt is the result of Republicans, from Reagan to Bush to Trump cutting taxes, preventing the country from collecting sufficient funds.

    Republicans keep saying that they are better at running the government because they'd run it like a business. Yet what businessman in his right mind would cut his prices to below his expenses?
     
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    This seems to be standard fare of conservatives lately. Do they have courses were they teach this? Don't really address the subject matter of the thread. Instead question the integrity of the other guy.

    Anyway one lays out the numbers, the unemployment rate of blacks was dropping long before Trump took office. A trend that has continued uninterrupted. We don't expect you to accept it. As the saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water...." You don't have to drink, but to say the other guy didn't offer you water is a bit on the dishonest side.
     
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  9. Rob Larrikin

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    This is your graph again. The red line shows you where Obama's unemployment rate was. The blue line is Trump's, and still going down. Also - you're wrong about Democrats not causing the recession. It was because of their stupid policies in trying to force banks to give loans to those who couldn't pay them back (amongst many other things) that the recession happened. Remove left winged policies and the recession would never have happened.
     
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    Black children suffered record poverty under Obama.

    Thats how he showed he "cared".
     
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    the market will not self correct foreign outsourcing and foreign imports, this must come from the government

    now if you mean society eventually collapse and rebuild, sure, but I would prefer to avoid that if at all possible
     
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    total BS

    black unemployment dropped more under Obama then under Trump, so if that is your scale, then you should be giving Obama more credit then Trump
     
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    or they do not want to work for the current min wage that has not kept up with inflation, yet corps are making record profits
     
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    A thread claiming Obama deserves credit who could have possibly guessed.
     
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    That's when the original tea party started.

    The tea party then made a major shift. When Obama was elected, the tea party went from a center-right fiscal responsbility movement to a alt right "Obama is Hitler" movements. The same people from the original version were overshadowed by skinheads and nutjobs who really had no idea how the economy even worked.

    I mean, under Bush, the tea party's policy was simple....

    1; Add new non-income tax revenue

    2; Cut spending, while ensuring that key departments and programs receive a minimum amount in funding

    3; Cut taxes on the middle class, raise taxes on companies that outsource jobs, and cut taxes on small businesses.


    When Obama took over, tea tea party was less about the economy and more about attacking anything Obama did as communism.
     
  16. Ronstar

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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oh so you blame the Democrats for reducing banking regulations?

    i thought you guys HATED regulations.
     
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    No its true.

    As soon as Trump took office, he tore down every economy shunting wall obama had erected.

    Like the keystone pipeline, and high gas prices.

    The economy is because of Trump, not obama.
     
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    You are somewhat correct.

    We are fiscal conservatives and we have always been here.

    We were here when the nation was first born and we are still here today.

    I don't necessarily agree that we became as you say to a degree but the Tea Party did start to encompass more than fiscal conservatism.

    Because we had so many successful protests the left attacked us, labeled us racists, and yes Nazi's, with their hate to try and destroy the movement and they did.

    So we disbanded but we are all still here and we still vote, we just don't make ourselves a target for the lefts hate anymore.
     
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    Sarah Sanders apologizes for false claim about African-American jobs

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/politics/sarah-sanders-african-american-jobs-trump-obama/index.html

    (CNN)White House press secretary Sarah Sanders issued a rare correction Tuesday night after falsely declaring that President Donald Trump has created three times as many jobs for African-American workers as former President Barack Obama did during his two terms in office.

    At least she corrected her lie..........which doesn't happen too often.

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    I went to several tea party rallies because I supported what they originally stood for. However, I stopped going because I started seeing and hearing less about sensible economic change and I saw more and more white trash screaming "die n***ger die", and Obama is Hitler. It's not some conspiracy by the left. The tea part WAS taken over by racists and morons. .
     
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    Straw Man.
     
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    Does black unemployment rates go down if their incarceration rate goes up?
     
  24. Lee Atwater

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    One of the great myths about the *********s is it was a grassroots movement when in fact it was bankrolled by the Koch's. Ironically, it helped give rise to the radical right and thus the Orange Fraud's candidacy.
     
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    Then again, if a person is no longer collecting benefits/runs out, then they are counted as fully employed.

    Fun with numbers I call it :)
     

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