Trump should sue MSM outlets

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  1. GrayMan

    GrayMan Well-Known Member

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    He should sue the MSM for misrepresentation of the ban on 7 countries after he wins in court. Their misrepresentation is costing the USA a substantial amount of money in legal fees for something that is obviously legal.
     
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    Exactly how are they misrepresenting them?

    Give a few example of how they are eithering intentionally misleading or outright lying about the ban.
     
  3. AmericanNationalist

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    By calling it a 'ban', instead of a travel restriction(like that of our restriction on Indonesia during the Cold War). There are people in our country utterly unpatriotic.
     
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    MSM focus on the lapses,
    like military aids in Iraq who's life are in peril out there in Iraq itself that should be protected here in the US,
    they question the legalities as per the bestowed freedom in the constitution, if they are not really protected then they will never ask.
     
  5. GrayMan

    GrayMan Well-Known Member

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    Calling it a muslim ban when it is not a ban on religion but on people of nations that 'intelligence' has deemed a risk to our nation.
     
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    No, he picked a few random Muslim countries and placed travel bans on them. Oh, and he made sure that the bans didn't effect any country he had business interests in.

    Really it does nothing. If a terrorist wants to enter the country, they can just drive an hour or two to a country with no travel restrictions and come over from there.

    There are plenty of non-Muslim countries that threaten out security. The IRA killed several Americans over the years in their bombings. Drug Cartels kidnap and kill Americans all the time and they have a direct hand in running several street gangs in the US, such as MS-13. Why doesn't he place travel bans on those countries?

    The sad part is he still tries to demonize refugees, even though it's a proven fact that no terrorist attack on US soil has EVER been committed by someone who entered the country as a refugee.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What he's doing now is even more effective: feeding them rope.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If by "random" countries you mean one's discussed and approved and listed by the Obama administration then sure.

    Yeah, it's so easy for an Iranian to get into the country by going to the UK, flying to the US, and presenting their Iranian passport. Do you guys even think this stuff through?

    Yeah there are plenty of countries that do that. Maybe on day 12 the POTUS will address that one.

    He does move kinda quickly huh?

    Also, there's the wide-spread lie that "no terror attack on US soil has been committed by a muslim refugee". In fact, nearly all of them have been committed by muslim refugees and/or thier children.

    Try harder.

    Oh and regarding MS13 and mexican gangs: does that mean we have your support on building the wall and securing the borders? You presented a good argument to get it done after all.
     
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    With our war on drugs, we hope to take it to the Drug Cartels. On THIS issue, Obama himself pleaded to Mexico for more assistance and they failed to provide said assistance. But given Trump's support for ICE and border control, it looks like he'll take on that war as well. As far as the IRA and other groups like that, most of them are dysfunctional or not a significant player in their own countries. Terrorism remains a predominate threat because it can happen at any time, and anywhere.
     
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    He should, that way he can be forced to testify under oath about who really runs his WH and creates his policies.
     
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    Donald. J. Trump, the 45th President of the United States does. Anymore questions?
     
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    Sure gotta proof of that since it has been reported that his buddy Stevie is the one who created the mess with the travel ban EO?
     
  13. AmericanNationalist

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    Rudy Giulani also claimed credit for it. However, it is now the (temporary) law of the land. And as for the arguments against it coming out of Washington now, 1st/14th Amendments, I'll quickly and utterly rebut each.

    1) The law does not in the slightest create any sort of interference between the State and Church/Religion. Nor does the order have any language promoting one religion or the other in it. As such, the argument on the first amendment fails without even entertaining it.

    14th Amendment) Now here you have a slight case, except you don't. Because refugees are neither citizens nor subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. Legally, they are lawful aliens being settled on a temporary basis. But not within our jurisdiction until approved by the DOJ. So the 14th fails here too, sorry.

    My prediction, is that all suits against Trump's order will be thrown out, as the only controversy was with the green card incidents, being cleaned up now.
     
  14. GrayMan

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    A lawyer on fox news said there was whole team involved but yeah Guilini was the originator.

    I wish I could Bannon the credit. Anything that keeps you up at night scared of the boogy man is a bonus! What is with bannon anyways? All the dirt online is extremely vague.
     
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    I would love such a suit as we can all place bets on how fast the first judge who see it would take to throw it out.

    Maybe Trump and crew could try once more to pass the Sedition Act and used it to jail anyone who hurt Trump feelings must less insult him and his crew.

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    Calling bull(*)(*)(*)(*) bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is not illegal and claiming it not a Muslim ban is indeed bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Bannon of course along with Putin.
     
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    The MSM and DNC do not understand the difference between people and voters. Trump does. The majority of VOTERS support what Trump is doing. A majority of people may not. People don't matter in politics. Only voters do. I am fairly confident if the voting record of the protesters and rioters were checked, not 1 in 4 ever voted in their lives. So, politically, 3 out of 4 are 100% irrelevant, other than most VOTERS do NOT like people who block roads, scream at people with bullhorns, shout obscenities and riot.

    Riots and obscene protests, protesters wearing masks etc all HELP Trump politically.
     
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    Of course Trump is running the government and we should just not see the man behind the curtain pulling the strings.

    You know the man who stated he would love to tear apart the nation in order to rebuild it more to his liking.

     
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    And I agree with Bannon. The Democratic and Republican parties have failed in our country. The day will soon come, when neither party has even a minority in Congress. And when that day comes, teeth gashing is all they're going to have. And I'll be more than happy to let them do that, as their words no longer invoke controversy in the country.
     
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    You mean like translators who's lives may be in danger?
     
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    Bannon? He's a racist/conspiracy guy.. Strictly lowbrow.. and he's a drunk and a wife beater.
     
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    Trump actions is going to bring out the anti trump vote in the middle terms to a degree never seen before in my opinion.

    He already even before this nonsense have more people voting against him then for him to the tune of just short of 3 millions votes.
     
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    Read the order and TRY to actually accept the truth. The "ban" is temporary and absolutely allows for exemptions. Have their been exemptions? Well, of the over 300,000 affected so far, all but 109 were virtually immediately given exemption - something Obama and Carter did NOT do with their much longer bans on immigrants from a Muslim majority country.

    The talk about translators is false strawman and red herring. They will all be exempted if when they are checked out and the Trump administration has repeatedly said so. This isn't about translators for our military. However, just because a person did translation for our military does NOT automatically mean the person isn't a danger either, does it?


    A majority of voters support his temporary ban. Protesters mostly are young punks who don't even vote. Nixon's phrase "the silent majority" is what will define the mid-terms. Because the silent majority votes. Rioters don't, they're just punks and malcontents. I bet if I searched your message history you also predicted a Hilary Clinton win by a massive landslide too, didn't you?

    Most Democrats and the Democratic Party have lost touch with reality. Large scale protests by the left always have lead to HUGE wins by the right. PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE ANGRY PROTESTS BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE TROUBLE MAKING MALCONTENTS.

    I can just hear it now. A Trump aid in the White House: "I have great news for you President Trump. There is another huge riot in Baltimore all over the news."
     
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    109 out of 300,000 travelers? That's how I understood it. Two sisters getting their doctorates here in Georgia were born in Yemen and live in KSA have been cleared by the US Dept of State and have scholarships. They were detained.
     
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    So if it's a ban on nations with known terrorist links perhaps you can explain why Saudi Arabia is conspicuous by its absence from the list? I expect you know that the 9-11 perpetrators were mainly Saudi...
    Of course it couldn't have anything to do with Trump having business interests there...at least 8 of them.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...d-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia
     

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