Trump Supporters Clean Up West Baltimore And The Liberal Media Are Irritated

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Because you just want to troll in a part of the forum that will get a lot of attention?

    The "irritated" Baltimore Sun editorial, an opinion piece, makes some great points if you bother to read it, by the way.

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    Amazingly enough, Mr. Presler is not the first one to come up with the bright idea of a neighborhood cleanup. It is not really that remarkable of a concept. In fact, they happen all the time. Sadly, it doesn’t take long for people (frequently from outside the community) to refill the alleyways with illegal dumping and for grass to grow again in front of vacant buildings with no resident available to tend the lawn. Does Mr. Presler know that drug dealers use trash to hide their product and have been known to threaten people who try to clean it up? The solutions are just not that simple.

    The silver lining in all of this is that the residents of West Baltimore did get a much needed cleaning up. That is something that they deserve. Streets and alleyways free of trash go a long way in improving the psyche of a neighborhood and its residents. Not to mention deterring crime. Mr. Presler says that people around the country are planning similar clean up events in their own communities. A loud round of applause for that as well. Spiffier neighborhoods are good for everyone.

    We also hope Mr. Presler keeps his promise to return to Baltimore once a month. It would definitely give his motives more credibility. It might also give him better perspective about the city’s problems than any single visit can provide. Maybe it could even lead him and his followers to advocate for federal housing, health care, transportation, education, criminal justice, civil rights and anti-poverty policies aimed at urban communities.

    In the meantime, we’ll see how clean the neighborhood still is when he returns in September.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinio...0190806-hmc2gndnhfhodch4yxromipgnq-story.html
     
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    How do you propose the "American people deal with it?" Objectives? Outcomes?

    Sounds like you don't know what do do?

    What should we do with growing numbers of workers who have outdated skills?

    Nothing special is happening to the economy under Trump.

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    Why nothing spectacular under Trump? Because he hasn't changed much about the economy he inherited. No vision, no focus.
     
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    Maybe they can send these trumpette “volunteers “ to the shithole that is Odessa , Tejas.
    Then they can move on to Pecos and Brownsville. Strangely, border towns don’t see crime levels like those cities in the interior of the “rat-infested “ state that is the conservative paradise.

    Give it back to Mexico: those god-fearing, upright conservatives already hire more illegals at sub minimum wage than the rest of the country.
     
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    Step one a 10 year plan to gradually .convert government spending to paying off the national debt ending at 70%
    Once the debt is paid off across the board 70 tax cut and a continued small federal government. Whatever revenue it gets one year is what the government gets to spend the next year. No deficit .

    After that a Campaign of self sufficiency and anti globalization, not isolationism but fairly close. Really focused on restoring America and American pride, but pride based on accomplishment not on heritage. Especially in inner cities.

    Some specifics i really like, energy independent homes. Families staying together and creating some of their own food sources.

    I could go on and on. But it's all a pipe dream, which is ironic because i don't own a pipe.
     
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    What programs are cut to enable this paying off of the debt and who determines which programs exist under this “small government”?
     
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    We have the debt because we can't afford the programs. I don't know what we would cut but it would end up being a lot.
    We have to make these cuts anyway, we certainly can't tax our way out of debt.
     
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    It's a city being discussed, not a State, and the Congressman responsible for what district is Elijah Cummings (D).
     
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    Whats wrong ? All you highly educated liberal teachers cant clean up one schoo?
     
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    Could be that we have the largest most expensive military by a factor of ten vs the next several nations... or that we have bases across the world... or the most expensive healthcare on earth.

    It’s not just “programs”.

    Everything needs to be cut but the largest cuts would need to come from the above
     
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    The biggest expenditure is entitlements so that's where most of the cuts have to come.
    Also, thoes are things outside of the constitutional responsiblity of the federal government.
    But you are right military cuts will be deep as well.

    One other thing, administrators of organizations will not be allowed to increase fees in order to increase revenue. Prices to visit Yellowstone won't be allowed to go up.
     
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    If you remove the insurances that people pay for directly (social security and Medicare) entitlements are no longer the biggest portion. The military is.

    If you cut either of those programs you are effectively raising everyone’s taxes.
     
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    There is no evidence Trump and the Republicans are headed in this direction.
    We have to sell into world markets to buy resources we require and don't have as well as buy foreign goods we can't make economically. Self-sufficiency is impossible.
     
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    You just hate the military don't ya?
     
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    I said I was surrounded by liberal teachers, not that I am one. Why aren't Republicans in control of state governments fixing our schools? All local government is chartered by states.
    Skipping this one, are ya?
     
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    I never said Trump was headed that direction.

    Whatever we can't get internally we have very little need for.
     
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    Non sequitur. You didn't address his claim.
     
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    I wonder how many people have a lifetime pass to the national parks. Got mine for $10. It has already saved me a bundle.
     
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    Wrong. That stopped being even close to correct early in the last century.
     
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    I did then i deleted it.

    Medicare and SS need to be dealt with entirely separately . And should not be part of the federal budget they also need to be phased out. The people would be better off keeping their own money.

    If it were possible I'd be in favor of simply paying back everything the Government stole from the people to pay for those programs. I don't expect to ever see a dime of mine.
     
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    Maybe we need a lot less than we think we do.
     
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    My wife is registered native American, Oglala Lakota Sioux. The ones who did in Custer. We get into parks and monuments free.

    It's off topic but funny, they seem to be forbidden to ask for any verification. She tells them she's native and they run scared getting out of her way even though she doesn't "look native"
    Anyway they act like they'll get fired if they even look at her funny.
     
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    If we went by the original Constitution only we'd still have slavery..
     
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    Did i say it couldn't be amended?
    But taking away one of the fundamental rights is not ok, yes, fundamental!
    Just as important as a free press and free speech.

    Hypothetically though, i think you are wrong.
    I think even without the legal end of slavery society would have evolved in much the same way it has.

    America was built by northern industrialization and western expansion not southern agriculture.
     
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    What fundamental right has been taken away? Remember to list them all...
     

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