Trump Supporters' Main Problem Was Never The Economy

Safe to say, the Donald Trump supporters who ransacked the U.S. Capitol last week weren’t short on cash or propelled by severe economic anxiety.

The insurrectionists came to Washington by plane. They stayed in Airbnbs and at the Embassy Suites. They wore costumes and carried weapons and iPhones. Some were cops. There were doctors, lawyers, a Chicago real estate broker, teachers ― even a school therapist. A CEO.

Sure, some of them could’ve been impoverished former coal miners, as so many pundits have described a certain sect of Trump voters. But these people weren’t raging over the decline of the carbon-based economy. This was a riot about race and power. If there was economic anxiety, it was spurred by the rioters’ false notion that their place in the world is under threat.

The insurrection was the violent cry of a group of (mostly) white men, afraid of losing power ― not just of having their savior leave office but more broadly seeing their place at the top of the American caste system knocked down a peg.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-core-support-never-about-economy-104500281.html

Interesting. Thoughts?

 

I think this was pretty obvious.

 

Interesting that the only point the progressives make is that half of the population that doesn't vote for them is racist. They never deviate from that point ever. Here you are providing the millionth example of that. Even when we explicitly say what our motivations are, they are never accepted. It reminds me of that thing liberals do with Muslim terrorists, when the Muslim terrorists say they do what they do for God, Liberals deny it and claim the terrorists did it because of something we did.

Here is how you know you are ideologically possessed... when you think you know what other people think and impose that on them in explicit contradiction to what they say they believe. This is what the Nazis did. This is what the Communists did. This is what the Chinese are doing. The Left is doing right here and right now the exact thing that the most barbaric monsters in human history did. To vote for them or to give them any power at all is suicidal. After watching their SS troops (Antifa/BLM) burn down half the country and terrorize innocent civilians for months on end, it is shocking to me that anybody would still vote for them.

 

"burn down half the country"?

Hyperbole, much?

Oh well, "Trumpism" was a FAILED Experiment (that will take decades to recover from).

The Only Way that America will ever be able to get rid of the STAIN that Trump (A Twice-Impeached President) put on America--is for the Democrats to retain power for the foreseeable future.

And, btw:

When did a Handful of Cities (which featured a few days of Civil Unrest) become "half the country"?

Is that the New Math?

"half the country"?

 

Yup thats why Democrats must "stack the senate".

 

Unlike the typical Trump rallies where Trump went to where the people are, this was a rally in which Trump asked supporters to go where he was. That's obviously going to be self selecting, since the average Trump supporter doesn't have the means or time to drop everything and fly to DC.

But interested in your thesis: That this was supposedly a rally about the economy and that the real purpose was about "race and power."

So can you source that the rally was presented as a rally about the economy? I've never heard that until this thread.

Also, can you source how the rally was really about race? What racial remarks did the President make at the rally?

 

Oh racism! Yawn.

 

I don't think the protest was about race - but certainly some folk took the opportunity to wear their finest racist messaging apparel.

 

Sure, a little hyperbole, but to wit, the Guard was activated in 30 states and at least 25 fatalities were recorded in connection with the peaceful protests that swept tne nation. Thousands of cops injured, some very severely. Billions in property damage, etc..

Say his name...



What is his name anyway? Nobody cares... nobody shouts his name at #SBLM super spreader COVID marches... just some old black grandpa whose cold-blooded murder doesn't fit the agenda.

Could you be specific please?

Careful what you wish for. One-party rule is generally a bad idea.

 

Many liberal/democrat politicians were not against riots in cities where police cars, a police station, were fire bombed and small and large businesses were destroyed. They even made excuses for the rioters, let them go on for days, and wanted to defund the police. But once the rioters came for the same politicians they condemned the rioters and wanted more armed guards. Even the media changed their reporting from "mostly peaceful" in the cities to insurrectionists, kidnappers, murderers, and trespassers in Washington.

 

I have a different opinion – the crowd who broke into the Capitol Hill was a crowd of gullible, poorly educated people who didn’t learn or forgot what democracy is about. Racism and power has nothing to do with their actions.
We have to admit the fact – President Trump is a genius in convincing poorly educated people, one day he convince them that Mexico will pay for the wall, another day that he will reveal his tax returns, that the corona virus is Democrats hoax, and at the end – that he won the elections.
Being gullible, poorly educated is not a crime, but breaking into the Capitol Hill it is.

 

Interesting how Trumpers fabricate absurd positions and ascribe them to "progressives". Obviously that's because they are unable to argue against progresives' real positions.

This is called "strawman arguments". And it's what all Trumper arguments have been reduced to. No facts, no countering the real arguments.... A definite sign that Trumpers are convinced we are right, but refuse to explicitly admit it.

So your concession is noted.

I can't even remember the last time Trumpers had a real counter-argument. It must have been years ago.

 

Burning down cities is also a crime. Look who let it go on for many nights. It wasn't Trump nor any republicans.

 

"Let it"? Nobody "let it". The rioters were arrested. And, unlike the Capitol incident, those that were caught in the act were arrested on the spot. The huge majority of rioters on January 6 just... walked away, without even the slightest effort to arrest them.

 

I guess we saw different videos.

 

You mean "losing power" as in being locked into their homes due to an obviously politically motivated scamdemic, having their livelihoods destroyed in the same way, other human rights violated, a few corrupt counties stealing their votes? That kind of "losing power?"

Want to have a legitimate adult discussion instead of a mud-fight? Skip the "insurrection" LIE about a group that was 99.5% or more peaceful and lawful, the veiled race-baiting LIE about an event with exactly -0- race connotations, and the lie of omission that neglects to mention that the true power in the U.S. is held by the large, elite, corrupt corporations that the LW boot-lick several times an hour on this forum these days, not the abused middle class little people at the Capitol.

 

Um........


You need to ask Emily Peck.

 

Yea, you're right. Those 400,000 deaths are all a hoax......

 

Yea like the people who travel to go an protest for a higher minimum wage.....................so what's your point only those impoverished are allowed to protest? And they were not protesting economic policy as far as I know, got something to back that up? Whats the race part? Most BLM protest and anarchy are mostly black, does that make them racist? And yes with the Democrats and their socialist/progressive wing ARE threatening them and the country with their policies. Should they have engaged in the insurrection, of course not. But you don't have a case against their motives they are no different than those on left be self-serving as they are.

 

Yeah... maybe while I was watching coverage of January 6, you were watching Alice in Wonderland.

That would explain it!

 

You see when a bunch of fascist racist white nationalist/supremacist Qanon batshit crazies that use the MAGA "movement" as an umbrella to hide under and empowering them slither out from under their rocks and out of their cesspools into more mainstream political discourse, a whole bunch of not friggin stupid people point their fingers and "j'accuse!. They aren't all of MAGA, the bulk of whom are simple gullible, scared white people with varying degree of bias. And MAGA ain't near all the people who voter for trump, since many independents employed a lesser of two voting strategy.

AS for SS troops, you can tell the level of persons knowlege and understanding by how they cast the slur. In this case the monumental idiocy of describing a bunch of violently and specifically anti fascist activitists and a BLACK social justice movement protesters with "Schutzstaffel troops". particularly since we both know the nazis, jew haters, holocaust deniers and neo fascists are ACTIVE MAGA participants. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

You can call it AIW if you wish, but when I see a cop allow rioters to walk past him, break a window behind him, enter and return with a large screen TV and walk past the cop again as the cop just stands idly by that is not AIW. That is liberal leaders allowing crime in the streets. Your denial reminds me of Bagdad Bob or the news reporter at the riots in the downtown area saying the rioters were mostly peaceful while a Wendy's was burning behind him. But maybe you only watch the Disney channel.

 

And the people involved in the actual riot were none if those. They were a couple of hundred loons and professional aggitprops who planned this weeks in advance. They weren't driven by Trump's speech or anything else other than there need to grab another few minutes of fleeting fame or maybe to pee on everyone's parade. Hard to guess motivations of crazy people.

What we know for certain is the FBI warned the capitol police who reported it too Nancy Pelosi and asked that they be given some readily available back up. Pelosi after consultation with Schumer decided that they didn't like the optics or worse knew that they could at least turn this against Trump in the short term and so the help was denied. The riot got as bad as it did because Peolsi and Schumer were more concerned with making Trump look bad than public safety, not that such is anything new for them. This was not Trump's fault anny Moore than it was the fault of little green men from Mars.

 

Anyone that can afford to buy guns and thousands of rounds of ammo. and bomb making materials certainly can't be too concerned about buying their next meal.???

 

that racism accusation must be more bullshit just because a very large % of the audience and the revolting mob in the capitol were known racist fascist white nationalist/supremacist, Qanon batshit crazies. Course that whole use of BLM/ANTIFA " is Burning down cities" had nothing to do with race and everything to do with combating Trump derangement syndrome.

As for the power accusation, well DUH, stop the steal. steal the election. the election transfers power.