Trump: "take down the mags, let them all in". WTF?

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  1. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not the same. A lie has to be intentional.
     
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    Just proves that I don’t have my head up Tucker Carlsons butt
     
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    Bunkum - what dictionary are YOU using!

     
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    Not a court of law
     
  6. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Merriam Webster
    True. But without that cross examination, they cannot get a complete picture.
     
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    The articles you linked to cite 3 people charged with carrying a firearm. Others were “related to January 6th” and involved firearms. Some of those, I have to assume, are related to Stewart Rhodes and those firearms were at a hotel on the other side of the Potomac. Likewise, the guy with the guns and Molotov cocktails in his truck didn’t have a firearm in him.

    With several thousand protesters all trying to take over the nation and a mere handful of firearms charges AND no use of a firearm by anyone in the crowd, Cheney’s characterization of the crowd is way, WAY overblown.
     
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    Can they not? These people are testifying under oath. To lie when doing that carries severe consequences.

    Plus it is not the intent of the committee to apportion blame - the intent is to determine what happened and develop strategies to prevent recurrence

    It does, though, point to probable guilt by certain parties. Fine, that is where the justice dept comes in and everyone gets their day in court. But the committee has been open - anyone with a counter narrative can speak before the committee
     
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    But it still proves there were firearms and this us a “so far”

    Now ask yourself - if the “Mags” had been Woking……..
     
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    The cross examiner asks different questions and asks them to clarify their testimony. I am sure they would not do it in trials, if they did not believe it elicited additional information.
     
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    You people do realize that the President does not control security at the Capitol building?
     
  12. Patricio Da Silva

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    She gave first hand testimony she heard Trump say 'take the mags down', and 'they won't hurt me' (those that are carrying weapons).
     
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    No one's liberty is at stake, hearings are not a court of law, they don't do 'cross examinations' at hearings. They only get many witnesses to testify and they attempt to hash out the truth that way. Cipillone's testimony will be transcribed and published, soon, and he will confirm or deny Hutchinson's stories.

    https://www.cov.com/-/media/files/c...tions-and-the-rules-of-the-117th-congress.pdf

    Although investigations may seem to proceed by familiar legal process—including document productions and witness testimony— there is actually very little due process in congressional investigations. There are no motions to dismiss, protective orders, or limited discovery orders. There are, however, some rules, and the rules that exist are important.
     
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    Well, if you lie about your intention, what seemed like good intention is not.
     
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    That would be nasty pelosi right?
    Why don't they have her testify?
     
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    Just because it is not a trial, does not mean it should not be fair.
     
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    It shouldn't be fair! It's pure propaganda and what rational propagandist wants to present a fair narrative? The Democrats are acting EXACTLY how they conceive a democracy should act. It's up to the American people to see if they like the Democrat version of "democracy" or whether it reminds them more ho the kind of democracy we saw with Stalin or Kim Il Sung.
     
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    LOL.. Who was her legal team again? Gosh.. If you aren't going to keep up, why do you play at all??
     
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    Nah, brah... I'm going to keep this one for posterity. I'll remind you of it periodically.
     
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    Good. Keep in bookmarked. Maybe, if you read it enough, it will sink in one day. It isn't complicated.
     
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    I just watched this video clip on Twitter.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1542235505047117825

    I don't question Ms. Hutchinson's credibility or veracity. My only "slight" hesitancy on the Orange Stain grabbing the steering wheel is "How the hell did he get his fat @ss up there?" He's not exactly graceful when he waddles around. Just sayin'. Him moving about a moving vehicle surely changes the axle loads.
     
  22. Patricio Da Silva

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    It is as fair as it can possibly be given how the events unfolded, to wit:

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    They had a vote for a bipartisan Senate investigation, and repubs filibustered it, you can't blame Pelosi for setting up a special committee to the task

    You can't blame Pelosi for McCarthy's pulling his selections for the committee and refusing to replace the two that were rejected.

    You can't blame Cheney and Thompson for the few hard Trumpsters who testified who, though they could have argued their case, they pled the 5th.

    You can't blame Cheney and Thompson for the many WH staffers and key operatives who are refusing to testify, some of whom have been indicted.

    IF this whole scenario is turning out in a way that isn't flattering to republicans, I make the following suggestions:

    1. Don't elect a corrupt, criminal, vile, despicable Human being for president, because such a man is likely to attempt to subvert an election through deceit, fraud, and whose lies provoked an armed mob to want to attack the capitol when elections don't turn out his way.

    2. Next time there is a bipartisan investigation up for a vote in the senate, don't filibuster it.
     
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    Well, that was completely uncalled for and just wrong.
     
  24. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    YOu made a claim:

    A DNC paid plant. prove me wrong

    The onus is on you, not anyone else, to prove your claim.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ah yes, referring to Trump as a human being is wrong.

    My bad.
     
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