Trump Takes Credit For Koreas' Olympic Talks

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  1. MVictorP

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    Looks like the President successfully "coerced" North Korea onto joining the Olympics in South Korea! I mean, that was the plan all along didn't it?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/06/trump-north-south-korea-talks-olympics

    Ha ha ha

    Well, at the end of the day, the sun rose up again thanks to Trump!
     
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    North korea will need a special exemption from the world olympic organization to participate in the games because they didnt bother to apply when nations were supposed to

    So yes they have had a sudden change of heart
     
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    Trump rakes credit for everything.
     
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    Of course it isn't as if Trump would prevent them from taking part in the Olympics, huh.
     
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    Just admit you were wrong and move on
     
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    That's not the point, Mac.

    The point is Trump taking credit for an event he would rather have prevented, as part the North Korea isolation campaign he is currently pushing.

    Sorry for not being clear enough before.
     
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    Since you put it that way you could have a point

    But south korea cannot convince kim to disarm

    So there is nothing to br gained by allowing them in the olympics
     
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    Takes others credit while rejecting all his own blame. What character.
     
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    South Korea and North Korea have more to talk about than just North Korea’s nuclear program. Besides, the North needs only to reassure the south of the deterrent nature of the program.
     
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    The number of provications by the north against the south is very long and spans 60 years

    From kims point of view only one solution is possible

    South korea must surrender to the north

    But I doubt if you will see it that way

    All kim is doing is stalling for time
     
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    North Korea have to go...South Korea need the hostages to prevent KJU from blowing up the winter games

    in a way Trump is right, if it weren't for him South Korea wouldn't need North Korean hostages
     
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    Great point. :salute:
     
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    Of course Vladimir Putin uniting both sides in a project that will benefit both Koreas economically had nothing to do with it. It was Trump's provocations that did the trick. It's like Washington saying they defeated the terrorists in Syria when they were aiding them to keep the war going on.
     
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    In order for that to happen, the South would have to first convince the North that all those American 'Thadds' on its border, and the 15 American bases and troops are a deterrent. Both Koreas have one thing in common though, and that's their friendly relations with Russia.

    China not so, although China thinks the American naval build up has more to do with them and the South China Seas, than with N. Korea. Xi had massive exercises and told his troops to prepare for war. Sounds familiar doesn't it? Didn't Russia say the same thing recently?

    God, this sounds like the First World War all over again... That's when they all sleep walked to their deaths.
     
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    Yes, I agree that there is an impasse, the north would want to be in control of any unification as would the south.
     
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    That sounds eerily like the language used by the Secretary General of the UN when he scolded Donald and Kim at the assembly in New York late last year!
     
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    Yes I was listening to an Aj Jazeera debate on him and the ME last night and that was what they are saying. He takes credit for absolutely everything. He is the person who has put Bin Salmon in place and he with Kushner are the reason for all the arrests. That was one thing they noticed that he took credit for absolutely everything. The other thing being that he had no thought, no care for the affect what he did had on the people. For instance with Jerusalem. Trump takes credit. He does it when no one else would....but he does it for the American Christian Right with not a single thought as to how this is going to affect the ME. The only people he cares for are the big players and that is Egypt, Saudi Arabia and of course Israel. On the Al Jazeera video they said they never had had or expected to have a President like this, one whose first priority is ....himself. They found it deeply concerning having a President of this kind - pretty much the psychopathic narcissist.

    What he has done is almost certain to cause a split in Muslims countries.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/jordan-paying-price-jerusalem-criticism-171212102011205.html

    Basically it is looking like Egypt (though totally unsupported by the people), Saudia Arabia and possible the UAE with Israel and the US against the Palestinians/Qatar/Lebanon/Syria/Iraq and Jordan - and of course the EU and the UK are not there with the US and could even potentially land on the opposite side.

    The PA in the meantime is considering everything including uniting for a violent response.
     
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    There are those perhaps many in south korea who dream of being one nation

    But it is not south korean national policy

    The north needs the south for a number of reasons mostly economic

    Taking over south korea by force if necessary has been the official policy of the north for 70 years

    But south korea is doing just fine without reunification
     
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    Yeah.....it’s truly a sad state of affairs for the Middle East and America. You’ve no doubt heard about Michael Wolfe’s book about the first six months of the Trump White House which chronicles the extent of his seemingly troubled mental state. Lots of on the record quotes by lots of people that we are all waiting to see, do they deny or substantiate what MW has reported. Steve Bannon has already commented on the book, seemingly distancing himself from what he has reportedly said about the president, however not denying any of it, and two journalists have already stated on the record that they were in the room for some of tha comments that MW recounted by Steve Bannon and have declared that MW has reported them just as they remember it. There’s still lots to learn. One anecdote recounts a staffer going through amendments in the Bill of Rights for Trump as he was unclear on them, and that by the time he got to the fourth amendment Trump was visibly bored, pulling at his lip and looking about the room. I saw a Republican congressman on CNN last night stating that the book is no surprise and confirms what most people have known or suspected all along.
     
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    Indeed, there’s reasons why South Koreans would love to see unification, none of them are economic.
     
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    Without China, North Korea has no economy.
     
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    There is a unification movement going on for some time in the Koreas:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_reunification

    Trump, of course, has made it possible. :clapping:
     
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    It’s not just China that provides aid to North Korea, there’s South korea, Russia and Iran at least providing assistance.
     
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    I think "surrender" takes a second seat in reunifications process. The Koreans have a lot more in common than in differences. No matter if it's the North that "conquers" the South, the actual NK regime will in fact change, largely due to the "arrival" of a "foreign" population, bigger than theirs, that will bring their own to the table.

    Personally I think that if NK "absorbs" SK, it will be the end of the NK regime as we know it.
     
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    Thats a very risky dream you are endulging in

    The north korean secret police are very proficient at rooting out “traitors” to the kim dynasty
     

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