Trump thought Turkey was bluffing and would never actually invade Syria, report says

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  1. MrTLegal

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    https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...-invasion-axios-2019-10?utm_source=reddit.com

    Trump is either dumber than people thought or is desperately hoping that people will believe that he is simply inept rather delivering the exact thing which Putin wanted, and got, with zero cost to Russia.

    And now, Republicans are so desperate to find a way to avoid criticizing Trump for his betrayal of an American ally, that they want to blame the Democratic Impeachment Inquiry. Although, to be fair to Romney, the two are related:

    Trump is an inept, incompetent, and corrupt President and that is both why he is currently facing impeachment AND why Turkey invaded Syria. Also possible that the invasion occurred now because Putin saw that Trump's time as President is limited and then ordered Trump to withdraw.
     
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    You think Hillary would have been better? :lol:
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Please watch GOP Congressman Michael Burgess twist himself into pretzel knots while trying to defend Trump for his decision to withdraw from Syria and leave American allies to die.

     
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    Formerly I didn’t appreciate Trump’s and I felt sorry Hillary’s lost, but currently I prefer him than Hillary as President. I hope Trump will win the next election.
     
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    Did you just reply to yourself lol
     
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    They'd rather a nuclear war with Russia.
     
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    Detective ArmySoldier to the rescue.

    I keep waiting for you to weigh in on this decision by Trump.
     
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    That's a good one for fake news. Turkey informed us they were going to do what they are doing and Trump pulled out our 50 or so troops to keep them safe. This conflict has been going on since the 10th century and the war machine wants us there forever to babysit. The Europeans do not want to do their part and this is more their problem than ours.

    The Arab coalition was put together to help fight this kind of crap and why we support Saudi Arabia in it's cooperation. Time for the Europeans to get off their bums and do something.
     
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    First off, never deflect by implying that I want Americans to die.

    Now, you approve of Trump leaving American allies to get slaughtered on a whim?

    Even if you wanted to pretend like those other military regiments could have provided the defense against the Turkish invasion, and I have zero knowledge of their military capabilities, why wouldn't you demand that Trump try and get those alternative defensive units in place before withdrawing the only source of support?
     
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    The Kurds are not even a uniform group and have factions among themselves.
     
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    NEVER imply that I want US personnel to die.

    And we haven't left the region. He literally just ordered 1200 US soldiers to deploy to Saudi Arabia.
     
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    KSA isn't where the issue is. lol! Are you the best the left wing has?
     
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    Of course, because of the Arab coalition that is helping with this fight. I take it you want us to go to war with a NATO ally, Turkey.
     
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    You are defending the wholesale slaughter of US allies and the expansion of Iranian and Russian influence in the region by withdrawing American forces on a whim.

    What is your best defense?
     
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    Turkey has wanted to invade that region for years. US Deployment prevented that invasion. Removing the US Deployment caused the invasion.

    You imply that the choice was either leave the US allies to die or Turkey would create a war with the United States.
     
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    It absolutely amazes me that we see the lefties on the thread twist and turn pretending that suddenly these people who they wrote off for the past 5 years are now worth caring about. Of course Turkey did exactly what our dear leftists wanted them to do. It's what they were likely advised to do. It begs asking the questions who designed this course of action for Turkey.
     
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    Playing with Turkey is like crossing a burning bridge. You're playing with fire.

    Did we learn anything form this??? Maybe that when someone says something over and over, they might actually mean that?
     
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    The story is bullshit. Trump believed that Turkey would do our dirty work and become a new barrier for Russia and Iran... and he was RIGHT!

    Here is the best video on the matter I have seen. It was created by all Left wing sources.

     
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    Meh, the new left wing warhawks now want us to babysit forever.
     
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    drumpf's moronic call here could go down as the biggest BLUNDER in his disastrous, illegit one-term presidency.

    The reckless, overmatched republican DOPE needs to go down HARD in next year's election... :thumbsup: :flagus: :democrat:
     
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    No, I just do not want to dramatically damage Americas standing in the world by proving to our allies that we will only stand with them until Trump makes a decision on the spur of the moment to no longer stand with them.

    I also do not want to make the war against ISIS a pointless effort because of the whim of a moron.
     
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    A barrier to what exactly? What is it you think Turkey will stop that we care about from Russia or Iran? You realize Iran has support on the OTHER side of Turkey and can now access them on two fronts. While Russia CAN'T BE STOPPED BY TURKEY UNDER ANY REALISTIC CIRCUMSTANCE. They can do what they want to Turkey and the only thing that stops them is...the US.

    So by pulling out troops in that region, you have just given it to Russia and Iran. You have let Russia become the power broker in the region and the nation others will turn to, possibly even the Kurds, in the future. And that won't be good for the US under any circumstance.

    Oh your video is just a right wing talker using clips of the news. It's less informed than most of the posts on here.
     
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    Wait
    You didn't appreciate Trump and you were sorry Hillary lost and after 3 yrs of this horse's ass circus of an administration......you have changed your mind??!! My god man, what happened to you?!!
     
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