Trump threatens to have military build border wall if Pelosi, Schumer won’t budge

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  1. rahl

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    sorry, but no mobs are trying to rush the entry points.
     
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    You can keep saying it but it's a lie. Tens of thousands illegal enter the country each month. We have anywhere from 11 million to 20 million here illegally. That can easily be called an invasion. And walls arent so easily defeated as you try to claim. It would take time which would enable the border patrol to get to the area and arrest them.
     
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    I gave you the link
     
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    but we both know it isn't.
    no they don't.
    illegal immigration is down, compared to 10 years ago. The majority of illegals are not illegal border crossers. They are here legally, and overstay their visas.
     
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    which doesn't show mobs rushing the entry points, lol.
     
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    It is a lie and you know it. Yes that many illegals do cross into the US.

    Illegal immigration being down doesnt matter, there are still 11-20 million illegals living in the country with more crossing each month. The majority arent those who overstayed there Visa, it's about half and those are less worrisome. Those illegals have at least been vetted.
     
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    no they don't.
    net illegal immigration is in the negative. Sorry.
    yes, the majority of illegals crossed legally, and overstayed their visas.
     
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    You can keep lying but it wont do any good. Like I said about half overstated their Visa, that leaves half who crossed illegally. And net illegal immigration isnt down.
     
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    uh, pointing out reality isn't lying, lol.
    yes, net illegal immigration is down, and yes, the majority of illegals came here legally.
     
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    Again, why did the Border Patrol use tear gas?
     
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    You're wrong, not going to waste anymore time correcting you. Keep lying if you want.
     
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    again, pointing out reality isn't me lying, lol.
     
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    Sez who?

    Illegal aliens do not register themselves with the government

    So you are just guessing

    Most sane observers know we have about 10 times as many illegals today as rpthere were in in 1986 when they all got amnesty
     
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    Of course a wall can deter certain people in certain situations, that's not really the question. I think the question that needs to be asked is "What is the most cost effective way to address illegal immigration along the entire southern border of the US"? The answer to that is I think much more complex than "A big concrete wall".

    Well, yes pretty much he did:

    "The experts say you can do border security without a wall, which is wasteful and doesn't solve the problem,” Schumer added.

    "It totally solves the problem, and it's very important,” Trump replied.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...been-broadly-debunked/?utm_term=.e7601c1ddc59

    Yeah fences and walls are a part of border security, but certainly not the whole answer, probably not even the most important answer, and probably not the most cost effective answer without really examining technology, legal and personnel options in light of the root causes of illegal immigration.
     
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    Literally none of that is true. None of it.
     
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    That's pretty standard for a Great Satan post.
     
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    This statement is a perfect specimen of negative generalization that is a “part of the problem”, fomenting divisiveness and intolerance, not encouraging solutions. It has no more validity or usefulness than would any sentence that starts with “All black people…”, or “all old white men…”, or “all Iranians…”, or “all Jews…” Saying that any significant class of Americans, such as “all Democrats”, are evil people who wouldn’t care if their neighbors got shot up is a toxic and untrue statement. Am I missing some positive effect you hoped to achieve with a statement like that? I agree that using a physical or virtual wall in certain segments of the border is part of the solution, but do you have any other constructive ideas about other cost effective solutions to illegal immigration?
     
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    Have for millennia
     
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    Because it is the right and proper thing to do in that situation.
     
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    Im sure democrats will finally be happy once all white people suffer.
     
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    Yes, I understand thst but clueless liberals do not

    It was because a mob of illegal aliens was trying to force its way into our country
     
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    Of course its true

    Democrats are for open borders

    The contrast between trump and pelosi could not be more clear
     
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    That is a Trump lie.

    Pelosi - like most Americans - knows that Trump's wall is a stupid idea and a waste of money. That doesn't mean she is for open borders. There are better ways to secure the border than Trump's stupid wall.
     
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    After reading some of his posts, I realise you are right. There is almost nothing in his posts that is factually correct.
     
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    Pelosi is all talk and no action

    Just a continuation of the years since the 1986 amnesty

    Other than awarding a new amnesty to 20 or 30 million illegal aliens libs and the dems plan to do nothing to stop the invasion on our southern border
     
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