Trump to CNN: ‘Ask the Angel Moms’ Whether I’m Making Up a National Emergency at the Border

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Go ahead and post the methodology you used to cometo that conclusion. Details of just how you arrived at the average IQ of a country like China should be hilarious!

    Here is a bit of reading for you education:

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289613000901
     
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    Which is just as absurd as calling all republicans racist. Broad generalizations ar typically unfounded. I agree that some Democrats are extreme but that is not typical of “the left”, and I think the number of Americans that don’t care about the safety of other Americans is marginal.

    Physical barriers work if it’s a full barrier with no gaps and under constant surveillance so people cannot go over or under them. Trumps wall will be none of this.

    Some see it as a humanitarian crisis as people flee violence
    Others feel it is simply a waste of money as more effective measures could be implemented that would actually impact illegals already in the country.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Do you think all rifles are assault type weapons. Somehow I don't think my bolt action rifles qualify but maybe I am wrong.
     
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    I looked it up in the peer reviewed literature. Is that hilarious? The same method I would use to know the charge of an electron.
     
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    Oh horseshit. I can predict the Left's every position by assuming:
    1) They want an Open Border easily breached by illegal aliens no matter how many of them are raped assaulted or murdered.
    2) Once in our civilian population, they want as many as possible to remain, no matter how many Americans are Raped Assaulted or Murdered.
     
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    What you are talking about are rifles. In this case, bolt action rifles would be assault type weapons since the definition apparently means military style rifles. Since no military uses an AR-15 but did use bolt action rifles, it appears you are harboring assault type rifles.
     
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    Really. Great news. Perhaps you could post whatever you definition of assault weapons you are using . But I guess you probably are correct at least as it applies to my Swiss Vetterli since it was a military weapon in the Late 1800's.
     
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    I don't have any, I only have rifles. Besides, the legal definition died with the AWB which invented the definition in the first place.
     
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    And the rights is based in racism bigotry and hate.
     
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    non-sense.

    The reason why illegally entry is down is because we're have twice as many people and money protecting the border.

    What would we save in personnel, equipment, and fuel with our resources on the border if we had a wall that prevented them from literally just running across?

    There are hundreds of thousands of people in Tiyuana and Juarez who would immediately take the opportunity to get across. And we are spending millions in bodies controlling a line in the sand.

    How do walls suddenly impact wild life, but not humans?

    Immigrants cost us billions. You desire to step over a nickle to pick up a penny.

    We have built thousands of miles of interstate sound barriers, but a wall is not feasible? Come on now.

    It's half, not 2/3rds.

    https://www.politifact.com/californ...-true-visa-overstays-account-half-all-people/

    If we didn't have sanctuary cities full of benefits and protected employers who knowingly hire them, this would stop too.

    Just because somebody doesn't agree with you doesn't make them any form of adjective.

    Alright. Il apologize for making that assumption. My bad.
     
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    https://globalnews.ca/news/4849650/james-watson-race-comments-dna/

    https://www.theguardian.com/science...tic-iq-differences-between-races-are-unlikely

    https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...ng-the-connection-between-race-and-iq/275876/

    Just to prove the point if you gave a Bushman in the Kalahari desert an IQ test he would not achieve the same score as you do.

    However if it came to you or him surviving in the Kalahari desert you would not survive whereas he would.

    In his own environment the Bushman has a vastly superior IQ to your own which exposes the fundamental fallacy of IQ which is that it is erroneously based upon things that only those in the west consider to be important.

    Environmental adaptability is a far better measure of IQ since that is what intelligence is all about as far as evolution is concerned. The Bushman has a superior environmental intelligence than yours because he can survive where you can't.
     
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    No, the fear is justified

    Fully justified
     
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    Blacks in Detroit are not ‘bushmen’, yet they consistently score significantly lower than Whites and Asians on IQ tests.......
     
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    Missed the point by a MILE again?

    IQ tests as written are based upon fallacious ASSUMPTIONS regarding the ENVIRONMENT in which someone is raised.

    Your odds of surviving in Detroit are probably significantly less than the average Detroit resident because you don't have the necessary street smarts to survive in that environment.

    IQ tests do NOT measure "street smarts" but if they did you would not score as well as the average Detroit resident.
     
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    Bookmarking this thread for the next time Conservatives are outraged at Liberals using dead bodies for political purposes after a mass shooting.
     
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    I haven't looked into the Cato Institute's methodology in that report, but in my experience I know Hispanics who've told me they've done that to get jobs--but that was several years back. In fact, when I used to work summers, I worked with a Mexican guy who did just that.

    I also know for a fact that there are a lot who do the "contract" work thing. No need to show papers, no need to file taxes. I know a guy who has a masonry business, and he sometimes gets labor on an as-needed basis. He says he calls a guy who will put a crew together for him for a set rate.
     
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    I noticed long ago that IQ tests are very culture-dependent. They also depend on a level of education that is not universal across all cultures. In that sense, there can be no rational comparison of IQs unless a specific test is created for each.

    Another problem I have with IQ tests is that they are limited to the test creators' understandings, especially when it comes to analogies and patterns. Such questions assume only a single correct answer, and I've worked with students who've come up with some rather brilliant analogies and patterns, but their choices were not officially correct.

    I see that people are careful to use 'culture' instead of 'race' lately, but the assumption that Blacks in Africa and in Detroit have the same intelligence-limiting culture is laughable.
     
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    Agreed!

    The bigots are flailing around using "pseudo science" to support their odious bigotry. What I find ironic is that they accuse others of having "low IQ's" while it is patently obvious that they lack the intelligence to even understand what the tests are actually measuring.
     
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    Another irony is this sense of superiority based on a bell curve. Seriously, if you have an average IQ and you claim some kind of superiority by simply being part of a general group that tends to have higher IQs, I'd have to say "your IQ is showing." It's like claiming greatness by association.

    I hate that discussions get sidetracked like this, but I can't help myself sometimes.
     
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    Yessiree bob. The proof is how many of your guns have bedn grabbed. Or are your guns perhaps stolen?
     
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    No

    The proof is what has happened to gun owners in other countries and in deep blue states here in America
     
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    Racial differences in cognitive ability are a proven fact. Blacks on average score about 15 points below Whites. The only issue is how much of the cognitive difference can be attributed to hereditary issues versus environmental effects:

    https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf
     
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    No, far from proven. Rushton's essay has been found to have a lot of flawed "science" in it, and a serious lack of how dna plays a role in intelligence. Researchers have not been able to pin down any specific genes that determine intelligence. Instead, they're finding hundreds and hundreds of genes that play small roles in intelligence. Those same genes play significant roles in many other things like height and weight. There is no evidence to support the idea of superior intelligence based on dna.
     
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    I don't dispute your experience. I think there is tremendous crimes being committed in the hiring of day labor/construction crews.

    I don't have much experience in that area.

    My experience comes in the manufacturing/assembly/production area. I would think the difference between a quick job/project, versus a brick and mortar/clock in/out type of job may explain the difference in types of Identification supplied.
     
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    Childhood malnutrition has a far more SIGNIFICANT impact on IQ than your BOGUS allegation about race.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041117005027.htm

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4979774/

     
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