Trump to demand $8.6 billion in new wall funding, setting up fresh battle with Congress

Republican Senator Barrasso stated today that he's had close contact and that Trump will veto the bill negating Trump's fake emergency.

That's an admission that the bill will pass this week. Those in favor of Trump declaring an emergency to override the will of congress just don't have the votes.

Now, we have Trump demanding $8.6B MORE!

And, that's part of his budget that would make GIGANTIC reductions in healthcare programs, education tuition, and food assistance - a budget proposal that is still over $4 trillion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...eec1e6-4342-11e9-90f0-0ccfeec87a61_story.html

 

Impeach him; impeach him NOW for having the audacity to actually BE president. That'll show him!

 

The morass of the wall continues to pull Trumpdown.

 

Clearly the sort of thing that should be EXPECTED when a country elects a Clueless AMATEUR.

 

Guess they should've just given him the 5 billion in the original bill.

 

The moral of this story is for congress not to cede their power to the presidency. In 1976 with Ford as president, with the Democrats in full control of congress, 291-144 in the house along with a majority of 63-37 in the senate, they gave the president the power to declare national emergencies with the following exceptions.

Certain emergency authorities were exempted from the act at the time of its passage:

• 10 USC 2304(a)(1) – allowing exemption of national defense contracts from competitive bidding
• 10 USC 3313, 6386(c) and 8313 – regulating the promotion, retirement and separation of military officers
• 12 USC 95(a) – regulating transactions in foreign gold and silver
• 40 USC 278(b) – regulating federal property purchases and contracts
• 41 USC 15 and 203 – limiting the assignment of claims against the federal government
• 50 USC 1431–1435 – enabling the President to make national defense contracts outside of otherwise applicable rules

The list of exceptions has from time to time been revised. For example, Public Law 95-223 (1977) repealed the emergency clause of 12 USC 95(a) and arranged for its authority to expire according to the normal provisions of the NEA.

Here is the rescinding portion.

Procedure for new emergencies and rescinding emergency declarations[edit]
The Act authorized the President to activate emergency provisions of law via an emergency declaration on the conditions that the President specifies the provisions so activated and notifies Congress. An activation would expire if the President expressly terminated the emergency, or did not renew the emergency annually, or if each house of Congress passed a resolution terminating the emergency. After presidents objected to this "Congressional termination" provision on separation of powers grounds, and the Supreme Court in INS v. Chadha (1983) held such provisions to be an unconstitutional legislative veto,[16] it was replaced in 1985 with termination by an enacted joint resolution. A joint resolution passed by both chambers requires presidential signature, giving the president veto power over the termination (requiring a two-thirds majority in both houses in the case of a contested termination).[17] The Act also requires the President and executive agencies to maintain records of all orders and regulations that proceed from use of emergency authority, and to regularly report the cost incurred to Congress.

Congress decided to give the president veto authority over the resolution to terminate in 1985 whether than either redoing or having the 1976 law declared unconstitutional. The Democrats who controlled the house 253-182 agreed to the veto portion along with the Republican controlled senate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act#Termination_of_presidential_authority

One of these days, congress ought to learn not to cede their powers to the administrative branch. I doubt congress will ever learn that as Democratic controlled congress's love to give Democratic presidents all the power that president want as with Republican controlled congress's doing the same for Republican presidents.

The above National Emergency act is an exception to above as in both cases, originally passed in 1976 and amended in 1985, you had two Republican presidents, both times you had two Democratic controlled House of Representatives and the senate was in Democratic hands in 1976, Republican in 1985.

 

Yep; you can either work with Trump; in which case he will see to it that you get something that you want in turn. Or you can flat out oppose him; in which case he will eventually fork you over . . . big time. It's so simple that even our leftists should be able to grasp those fundamentals.

 

Do you think congress will give him $8.6 billion after refusing to give him $5B, having the government shut down and having Trump attack the expressed will of congress by declaring their legislation to be a national emergency?

I think that would more than a little surprising.

 

I was going to point out the same thing; but I wouldn't have done such a nice job of it.

 

That doesn't address the FACT that the president used this power to directly contravene the will of Congress.

 

Wonder what the strategy is to not only submit another request for wall funding but increase the amount as well. Trump's emergency action is going nowhere due to both Republican and Democratic opposition. Foolish president.

 

I think the dems have spent more than 5 billion trying not to give Trump 5 billion. What does that tell you?

 

They will never learn.

 

So did Obama. We tried to warn the Democrats what would happen.

 

Our Founding fathers gave the power of the purse to CONGRESS not the president!!

 

Yes, but in all fairness our leftists KNEW that Hillary was going to become president and so the Obama tactics would have been perfectly fine with them as Hillary continued to do the same things. Then Trump wins and all of a sudden the very things that they thought were so great when Obama was doing them are now . . . EVIL.

 

Yep, and all the Left has to do is again shut down the government until Trump surrenders. Funny that they don't seem willing to go through that again since the nation did not automatically side with them.

 

It did, I mean the cost of the shut down was more than if Trump just got his 5 billion.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/government-shutdown-cost-more-trumps-170955615.html

 

They also gave the power of law enforcement to the executive branch, and yet congress seems intent on interfering with that as it pertains to illegal immigration.

 

Read the polls.
It's just one more stake to the heart of the Trump 2020 election.

 

Overriding the veto would be sufficient.

 

Trump is POTUS....like it or lump it.

 

Our Founding Fathers also gave the power of veto to President!!

Our Founding Fathers also gave to CONGRESS two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives to override a veto!!

 

Judge Napolitano [Fox News] stated that Trump can not survive another week [ie. Cohen testimony/ failure with N. Korea/ congressional investigations].

 

He is showing himself to be a "never Trumper".