Trump to demand $8.6 billion in new wall funding, setting up fresh battle with Congress

Oh, so now you want Dems to be responsible for the stupendous costs both dollars and human that directly derived from TRUMP shutting down the government???

WTF?

 

Which Obama invocation of the national security provision was in defiance of direct congressional action to the contrary?

 

You certainly may have identified the root problem.

But, the nonsense in the proposed Trump budget is still something that will be dealt with by Congress - as has been the case with every presidential budget proposal for the last few decades.

 

That is good. The American people see where the problem is and take care of it in 2020.

 

You're getting the wall like it or not.

 

I take it this was aimed at my post on congress ceding their power. The will of congress was to cede the power to declare a national emergency to the president. It was the will of congress instead of rewording or reworking the original 1976 law that congress gave the president veto power over any passed resolution to terminate a national emergency. Congress passed a quick amendment to the 1976 law in 1985.

Today, Trump is just doing what congress legislated using the powers congress gave him. I've been saying for seems like forever to me that congress ought to stop ceding their constitutional powers to the president and other government agencies. The bottom line is congress gave the president, any president the power to do exactly what he is doing. A president couldn't do this without congress ceding that power to him. It was congress who passed the legislation to enable the president to do exactly what he is doing. Congress authorized it. Is doing something congress authorized really going directly against the will congress?

 

What Congress gives to Presidents can be taken away: such as Trump's emergency order about the Border.

The purse strings belong to Congress not the President.

But the right never learns, so it will have to be educated yet again.

 

So that goes back to my first response, the dems should've given him the 5 billion in the first place. That would've saved a lot of money (more than the 5 billion) and a lot of hassle. Trump didn't shut the gov't down alone, but I like how you tried to slip that in there.

 

This makes me laugh. Trump requests wall funding. Democrats who voted for wall funding before make stupid claims to thwart Trump. Trump uses the laws that democrats in congress passed and the democrats are triggered. Democrats in their TDS rage ignore the experts.

US Border Patrol says that after physical barriers were erected in San Diego and El Paso sectors, as well as Yuma and Tucson, they saw reductions in illegal border crossings of 95-99%, but that those barriers need to be expanded and extended to really secure the border.

 

And, Trump should have grabbed the $25 billion the DEMS offered him last year for his wall in exchange for cleaning up the "Dreamers" situation.

 

Did y’all finally get Mexico to pay for it or are you simply stealing it from the taxpayers?

 

I think not.

 

You must have missed the meeting.

 

We're confronted with tens of thousands of 'migrants' swarming the border we must share with a neighboring nation (Mexico) that couldn't care less whether our border crossings and our national sovereignty is overrun or not... and to you and your faction, that doesn't constitute a national emergency? You're more worried about this government's handout welfare programs and "subsidies" than keeping illegal aliens from barging in here like a vast, uncontrolled herd of wild animals?!

Truth? If that is so, then it is the people in your faction that they must have had in mind when they made us swear to defend the United States against ALL enemies, "foreign and domestic"!

The only thing that Trump has failed to do is to SEAL THE BORDER SHUT TO EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING until/unless MEXICO fixes the problem that MEXICO has allowed to fester and grow on its side of the border -- threatening OURS!

Hint: any Mexican businessperson will tell you -- they need us and our money a hell of a lot more than we need Mexico!

 

No one but you actually thought Trump meant they would write a check.

Since it costs approx. $140 per bed every night, that's $7,162,232. That's not counting health care or legal fees. $7,162,232 X 365 = $2,614,214,899 per year. They are costing us half of what Trump's asking for a wall PER YEAR not including health care and legal fees. Why would you want to waste that much money when it can be stopped?

As far as paying for it......

Charging a small fee to cross either way would have the wall paid for in in a relatively short period of time.

 

Don't bet on it.

 

I see why Trump likes you guys.
It is the second layer of barrier in San Diego. Work on replacing the first layer is nearly complete, which is also 14 miles long and made of steel bollards up to 30 feet high.

 

Construction carries on.

 

The extent to which the RINOs of Trumpery have trashed traditional, conservative GOP values is quite remarkable.

Trump Proposes a Record $4.75 Trillion Budget!

"I'M THE KING OF DEBT!"
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Some remember when real Republicans forced a previous skanky president to concede that

"The era of 'Big Government' is over."

The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton


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Definitely (per Trump's Campaign Promise) on par with The Great Wall of China.

Visible from outer space. #MAGA

 

Yep, at least the Dems know where to put walls.
Trump just wants to put his name on something.

 

Trump absolutely DID shut down the government on his own.

There isn't any question of that.

You can argue that the legislature agreed to paying only a portion of the ransom, but that's not an excuse.

 

We're also committed to international agreements on asylum. When people come here for asylum they can't stand at the border and wait for months while agents of dictators and drug cartels search for them. It's understood internationally that entry is acceptable when there are legitimate reasons under asylum law.

Our population of undocumented aliens stopped growing in 2008/2009. This problem has been significantly reduced and can not be considered an emergency from the standpoint of numbers.

- we have a white supremacist president that is rallying Americans against Hispanics who he pitches as criminal deadbeats and drug traffickers running across the border - a collection of lies and xenophobia he whips to a frenzy.

- we have a president who is using emergency procedures against the expressed will of Congress. That is clearly NOT what these national emergency procedures were designed for. Congress addressed the border, rejecting the president's preferred direction. It can't be considered legitimate that the president would declare that a national emergency.