trump to hungry: Let them eat "whatever."

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    Great post. Could not possibly agree more.

    What we're seeing in the West is a 'spoiled brat' unwillingness to live modestly and exercise constant self-discipline. THAT'S what these 'defenders of the poor' are really protecting .. the right to be a spoiled brat.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that's not what you said in your post. read it again.
     
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    She chose him in the first place. And sorry, but it's very very easy to avoid terrible people. They announce themselves long before they do anything terrible. If you don't want that sht to happen, be ruthlessly practical and cautious about who you marry. Don't marry that bad boy, or cocky boy, or jealous boy. Don't marry the smoker, the drinker, the gambler, the artist, the musician, the actor, the unemployed, the boy who has no savings or prospects, the 35 year old who is still renting, etc etc etc etc ad nauseum.

    The brain tumour is very unfortunate, but we have medicare.
     
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    I said that Asian migrants were growing food in tiny places (rather than sitting on the sofa pulling cones).
     
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    $100 a day, when room and board are covered, is a huge amount. My two sons - were they ringers - would save $98 of that without fail. They'd have enough to buy a cheap rural property outright within a year. All via the simple exercise of self-discipline.
     
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    if you regard protecting fat lazy people from responsibility as empathy - then we're not even on the same planet.
     
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    It's not a matter of opinion (deeming), it's a matter of REALITY. The effect of their choices is made very plain by the outcomes (poverty).
     
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    And you would kill that child within days

    !@#$!@#@!@ ignorance!!!!!

    You NEVER EVER give carbohydrates to malnourished humans - ever heard of a thing called the “refeeding syndrome”?

    https://www.nice.org.uk/sharedlearn...ge-medications-at-st-george-s-hospital-london
     
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    What about the evidence that the cheapest foods are also those highest in sugar and starch and lowest in protein vitamins and minerals?

    Mac Donald’s is CHEAP you can get a meal there for under $10 but eating it every day will lead to malnutrition

    And NO malnuttition is NOT the same as starvation

    Let us look at a basic nutritional requirement - iron.

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    Now one of our remote indigenous communities the price for a head of lettuce was $30.00. Many hospitals run day clinics where iron infusions are given and that is because of lack of iron in the diet (as well as vitamin B12 but I wont go into that)

    Lack of iron (and b12) causes anaemia - anaemia causes feelings of tiredness and fatigue - vicious cycle

    if YOU are this ignorant of nutrition - imagine what it is like for those with lesser education?
     
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    :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

    I'm just such a total dumbass! Someone should notify Webster's......they say the common synonyms of 'malnutrition' are starvation, hunger, famine and anorexia.

    Who knew when I was a morbidly obese 13 year old teenager that I was suffering from malnutrition!! I quit eating so damn much and lost 40 pounds. I ate the same food and didn't exercise! It's like I should write a book or something and educate the fatties about their malnutrition!

    Just think if I would have had pine nuts....shazaam, like a miracle or something! I would have never been 'fat starving'. :roflol:

    And BTW, you should educate yourself about how much sugar is in bananas and how the body turns starches/carbohydrates into sugars....nice potato you have there.
     
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    Good for them - obviously they did not also have to travel to town for medical care or pay for care of thier horses or.........even date a girl

    Seems your family has done everything - the taste of troll is getting stronger

    Might visit my ignore list
     
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    WEBSTERS???

    You are relying on a DICTIONARY to teach you nutrition :roll::roll::roll::

    PS look up what the suffix “mal” means - it will be in your Webster’s dictionary

    Research (that is if you don’t think it is all a scientific conspiracy)

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/j.1550-8528.1995.tb00453.x
     
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    I used to live with a certified, degreed nutritionist. She ate pine nuts, kale, broccoli, sprouts and a lot of that other stuff on your chart. I explained to her that it didn't matter how supposedly good it was if you ate too damn much of it. She got fat. Must have been 'fat malnutrition'. She's history. The end.
     
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    More research for the uninformed

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ajhb.22253

    https://ageconsearch.umn.edu/record/55889/

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002822307016173

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ejcn201331
     
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    ANd you obviously learnt very little from her if you think obesity is not malnutrition
     
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    You want to cut poor children off from the government programs that feed them, or end those programs entirely There are no private charities operative that could even come close to feeding as many starving children as are known to exist within the next few years (assuming they ever could). During that time what are these starving children to do? Eat your unsubstantiated projections and conservative platitudes?
     
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    I think your version of English is not reality in the U.S.. Either that or I'll just continue to laugh at your posts. I'm someone that has walked in those shoes....and your comments are just plain asinine. I've lived it....you're scrambling trying to link some bullshit.
     
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    You did not mention horse care, and dating is free if it's done at home.

    And on the contrary, there is plenty my family hasn't done. EG, drugs, alcohol, gambling, fast food, expensive lifestyle, fancy phones, spent more than we earn, divorced, dropped out of school, lived in places we couldn't afford, had kids we couldn't afford, etc etc.
     
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    the bag of rice was a metaphor. jesus .. did you seriously not get that?
     
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    It appears that you conveniently forgot to add the rest of your statement "They didn't take up drinking/drugs" (Highlighting mine). How anyone in this thread can take you seriously is a mystery to me.
     
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    There is no such evidence. No processed foods can ever be cheaper than their base ingredients. The 'evidence' you quote compares processed supermarket foods with high end non-seasonal produce and high quality proteins (ie, meats), which is just plain bad science.

    When the ingredients of any processed foods are measured for their actual cost per weight unit, the processed product is usually at least twice as expensive as the raw ingredient. If you buy frozen processed 'burgers', for example, you're actually getting less beef (or whatever the 'flavour' is) per $ than if you were to buy fresh beef. If you buy a can of soup, you're getting far less of ALL the ingredients (plus a whole bunch of ingredients you don't want) per weight/dollar, AND less nutrition, than if you were to cook bulk quantities of soup from fresh seasonal ingredients.

    Furthermore, locally grown grains plus dried pulses plus locally grown seasonal vegetables (ie rice, beans, & greens) is the cheapest and healthiest diet UNIVERSALLY. It's true everywhere in the world, in varying iterations. Proteins are obtained from eggs and/or small quantities of fresh beef/fish etc. No one needs cheese. No one needs soda. No one needs meat every day. No one needs packaged breakfast cereals, snack foods, ice cream, etc etc etc. All of those are luxury foods ... which is why genuinely poor people don't eat them.

    The upshot is that those bad diets (ie, the LUXURY diet) are a choice - chosen by people who don't want to give up their instant gratifications, and who don't want to cook.

    Finally .. Micky D's is VERY expensive. I can feed five adults for $10.
     
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    Exactly. They rarely do that stuff.
     
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    Once again, we're not talking about PRESENT children. We're talking about future children (and there are FAR more of them).
     
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    But you think grotesquely safe and well fed First Worlders shouldn't have to do hard stuff. Only starving Third World peasants should have to give stuff up to keep themselves fed, right?
     
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    No, we're talking about your apparent refusal to answer a simple question. I apologize if I have been unclear and will beg your kind indulgence in allowing me to rephrase. If you cut off the funding for food for these children in the present day what are they supposed to eat, your vague promises to generations yet unborn?
     
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