Trump to NFL owners: Fire players who kneel during anthem

Yes supporting a cause certainly makes them spoiled brats. You would never catch Trump supporting snything that didn't benefit himself.

And putting your career on the line to support a cause is a lot more comendable than making your career criticizing the selfless actions of others.

 

Maybe you should read the links before you post them. Or go ahead and find where the link you posted said the poor attendance was due to kneeling during the anthem.

Here is the link you posted to again in case you are to lazy to look it up.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/9/17/16322710/rams-chargers-attendance-usc-texas

Now feel free to provide any exerpt that talks about kneeling as the cause for poor attendance. Will wait while laughing.

 

You sound like you have been duped by the agenda driven left wing media. Are you aware that while this black man was killed by a cop, two white men were killed by cops? Are you aware that for every black man killed by cops, there are two white men killed by cops? Do you ever hear about them? They too had Mothers, Fathers, Brothers, Sisters, and friends who loved them. Had their lives no value or worth? Are you aware that a black cop is three-four times more likely than a white cop to kill a black man? Are you aware that while blacks make up fifteen percent of the population, they commit roughly seventy percent of all crimes? And are you aware that a cop is fifteen times more likely to be killed by a black, than a black killed by a cop?

 

Noticed that you cannot reply to my post. But I do agree that the white players should also kneel out of concern for unarmed white people killed by cops.

 

I wonder what the US armed forces' position is on this issue? Oh that's right, they are severely restricted from many forms of political expression while serving, and thus rely on their commander-in-chief to speak for them when someone uses political expression to insult what is dear to their hearts.

 

Have ticket prices fallen?

 

Your argument goes against your own logic, as only 13% of Americans are African American. If your logic had any basis for truth, there would be 7 Caucasians killed by police for every one Black.

 

Draft dodger commander in chief, has no moral right to criticize anyones elses patriotism.

 

In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings, and the project continues this year. As of Sunday, 1,502 people have been shot and killed by on-duty police officers since Jan. 1, 2015. Of them, 732 were white, and 381 were black (and 382 were of another or unknown race).

But as data scientists and policing experts often note, comparing how many or how often white people are killed by police to how many or how often black people are killed by the police is statistically dubious unless you first adjust for population.

According to the most recent census data, there are nearly 160 million more white people in America than there are black people. White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis published last week, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.

U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. But because the white population is approximately five times larger than the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer.

[Unarmed and black: Police are still killing unarmed black men at higher rates than whites]

Police have shot and killed a young black man (ages 18 to 29) — such as Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo. —175 times since January 2015; 24 of them were unarmed. Over that same period, police have shot and killed 172 young white men, 18 of whom were unarmed. Once again, while in raw numbers there were similar totals of white and black victims, blacks were killed at rates disproportionate to their percentage of the U.S. population. Of all of the unarmed people shot and killed by police in 2015, 40 percent of them were black men, even though black men make up just 6 percent of the nation’s population.

 

Everyone knows that the flag means more to those who serve than it does to others. So when you have a large group of millionaires who use the fact that more cameras are pointed at them than anyone else to insult another group that cannot legally organize a political response even if they could receive the same media attention, it is perfectly natural, and just, that the commander-in-chief publicly defend those who cannot defend themselves, or attack their offenders.

 

It's also called 'doing the right thing', just as we understand good manners and socially acceptable behavior.

Lebron James said "My voice is more important than my knee". Fair enough but then where is that voice? Where are any of the voices of these overpaid athletes who make their statements physically but aren't articulate enough, or sufficiently insightful, to give an intelligent response when they have a forum to speak their views.

"My voice is more important than my knee' may sound profound to Lebron but it's just gibberish and demonstrates the lack of awareness most of these athletes have without a ball in their hands. If they want to change their neighborhoods, or the nation, speak directly on the issues effecting the country and perhaps offer a solution to the problem.

But they can't do that. Cheap gestures are as far as they can go and, given their limited understanding of any problem outside of game tactics, we cannot expect any more than that. They are publicly displaying themselves nationwide as the 'useful idiots' they genuinely are.

 

Not if you consider that blacks commit seventy percent of the crimes. That's why blacks are over represented in incarcerations. It's not racism. It's conduct. Asian Americans are underrepresented in incarcerations per capita, not because they are favored, but because they are more law abiding. As such, they make their own luck or good fortune....economically as well. Similarly, hispanics fall somewhere between whites and blacks for the same reason.....conduct. To overstate so as to make a point, Between a Boy Scout Troop and a street gang; Do you think that the same numbers from each group should have a rap sheet? That's not the measure of equality, or the absence or presence of discrimination. They have differing scores because their values which they embrace are different. Work, faith, sacrifice, do good, honor Parents, obey the law. Is that so hard? Good values applied in bad circumstance bring about better circumstance.

 

An objective look at Trump's motives reveal very simple and practical roots, as opposed to politically divisive as you say.

Place yourself in the shoes of the commander-in-chief of the most powerful military in the world. It is a military that derives much of its motivation from its respect and love for the flag and what it stands for. Now you have a very large group of multi-millionaires who command massive media focus who use it to disrespect that flag.

Trump has a duty to respond that has nothing to do with political divisiveness. It is a no-brainer, practical move.

 

Well said.

 

What the hell does the MILITARY even have to do with this? NOTHING, until the Con decided to try and make it so, because the Cult of Patriotism will not permit anyone to "disprect the flag" (another thing not involved here, actually) without trying to make it about the military.

Anyway, some great laughs:



I was not aware of those Twitter responses to the Con.

 

My my. Apparently taking a knee was articulate enough to get the doter in chief involved.

 

The fallacy in your thinking is that you are assuming that kneeling during the national anthem is either attacking the flag or insulting the military. Neither is the case. Putting the fase spin on it being anti patriotic is in no instance justified by the facts or the reason for the protest.

And our draft dodging President should be the last person in America to pretend patriotism or respect for military service.

 

He had to do something to gin up his base after the healthcare mess and his pathetic performance on North Korea. Guess the old pretend religious issues aren't working well enough so now he has to try and pretend the issue is patriotism.

 

I dont get why America and it's news stations need to make from everything like it's the end of the world.

So Steph Curry and his team dont want to go to the White House- it's fine and therefore the invitation got cencelled by Trump. It's ok.
Furtheremore, the NFL players disrespected the flag and the American anthem by kneelling during the anthem. They want to protest on something that happen in the US? be my guest, but they could do it after the anthem like some singers that sang the anthem prior to the start of the NFL games did.

 

Well, you just keep on wondering; perhaps at some point you'll get your answer.

 

Can you please post where I can get these $6 tickets you mentioned? Anywhere in the East will do.

 

Redskins.

 

Colbert has become a cheap partisan politician hack of particularly unskilled writers.

 

Many Democrats agree with you that Latinos really aren't Americans but rather they all are Mexicans, even if their family has been in this country for generations and therefore must never be counted as Americans as you assert yourself in your message.

What about Asians? Do you also claim there are no Americans of Asian ancestry?

 

In part it is because the statistics are a lie. Michael Brown was NOT unarmed. DNA confirmed his dna on the gun, meaning he was NOT unarmed and was in a struggle for the same gun that he had hold of.

You unabashedly twist stats in that you disregard that most shot and killed by police are male.

You also just blow off that the vast majority, in fact, were armed, so the rant is that police don't agree to being murdered, correct? The article literally defined armed criminals even shooting at the police are "victims" if the police shoot back and kill the criminal trying to murder them.