Trump to Protect U.S. Taxpayers from Subsidizing Health Care for Immigrants

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hate is a little liberal emotion.
     
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    None of these countries have birthright.
    None of these countries will issue a permanent visa to a sick individual with no means to support himself.
     
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    No they can't.
    But companies, like some tRUMP has, hires them anyway.
     
  4. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's right, blame trump and go easy on sanctuary cities. Figures
     
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    That's right. Let criminal employers off the hook. Figures.

    I didn't say anything about sanctuary cities. We were talking about how they survive.
    I answered by work.
     
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    So voting for the lesser of two evils does not speak well for me? How do you think buying into a false dichotomy reflects on you?
     
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  7. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im forced to have health insurance-first it was by the sham Obamacare, but now California requires it. Illegals get free healthcare though.
     
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    I work with an international charity to provide healthcare directly in 3rd world countries-so Im covered.
     
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    Sounds like hyperbole, while you ignore the 3rd world conditions in democrat run cities.
     
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    Probably won't do you much good in a third world country.
     
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    Probably not, the fact that Im travelling with other providers means I get well taken care of.
     
  12. Steve N

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    They survive by crime, how else would they survive when it’s illegal for them to work? And of course you didn’t say anything about sanctuary cities, you support illegals just like they do.
     
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    Supplemental insurance covering emergency evacuation from practically every country of the world is not all that expensive, and is widespread.
     
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    Trump said Obamacare was gone on day one, was that a lie?
     
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    No we shouldn’t help just ANYONE who wants to become a citizen. People who want to become citizens shouldn’t NEED help. They should help us. You’re simply not getting the equation here. We shouldn’t accept people who can’t survive on their own. They’re a net drain on the country.

    The country isn’t here to help you. You’re here to provide a skill or service that helps everyone else. If no one can help themselves our country is doomed. Progressives and the far left don’t understand economics so they don’t understand the building blocks of business.
    Only on a technical level. Morally you’re bankrupt and selfish using a child to make sure you don’t get kicked out of the county. Sorry.

    Anchor baby loophole must go. Very few 1st world country have such a horrendous law and most of them can barely be considered 1st world anyway besides Canada. Besides it’s not like millions are kicking the doors down to get into any of them.
     
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    You're a little liberal? Good to know.
     
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    Don't know if what you say is correct but it does show how progressive the US is in leading the world.
     
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    Your voting logic is false because while it is a "false dichotomy" in a strict sense the fact is that one of the candidates from the two parties is going to win and the fact that you voted for the "lesser of two evils" means that you are lying about the issue of buying into the "false dichotomy". You did when you voted for Trump.
     
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    Not really a sham, just another law that will now be enforced rather than ignored.
     
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    So lets say for purpose of discussion my issue is stopping illegal immigration. I have two choices. One is Trump who will in reality not stop illegal immigration. The other is a candidate who will do everything possible to roll out the red carpet for illegals and give them free stuff when they get here. So, should I vote for Trump or just not vote following your "logic."
     
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    Of course it does. Simply denying the visa application is the process.
     
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    Partly true, they also rely on some employer who commit the crime of giving them jobs and encouraging them to stay in the US.
    How about a more practical answer. Set up a government department who can assist illegals return home without fear of prosecution for entering and staying in the US illegally?
    It will cost to begin with but should save plenty in the long run.
    Help them to go home.
     
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    Stop right there.
    Do not blame the welfare vampires as you call them for using the system to their benefit, blame those who introduced and perpetuate the system.
    Be honest, if you had the option of dragging yourself out of bed 5 or 6 days a week and going to a job you dislike and getting paid a pittance for it, or sitting on the couch all day watching TV and getting the exact same amount of money, which would you choose?
    It's the couch for me every time.
    Change the system that allows this is the obvious and only answer.
     
  24. Steve N

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    Instead of building a wall and then capturing and deporting illegals, the left says we need to remove the incentives for illegals to come here and this is AOC's response to that:


    AOC pushes national rent control, welfare for illegal immigrants in latest massive proposal

    “The Place to Prosper Act” would prevent year-over-year rent increases of more than three percent. Meanwhile, “The Embrace Act” would allow illegal immigrants to claim the same welfare benefits as U.S. citizens and those immigrants here legally,

    “Notwithstanding any other provision of law ... an individual who is an alien (without regard to the immigration status of that alien) may not be denied any Federal public benefit solely on the basis of the individual’s immigration status,” the bill reads.


    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ao...6EhJbEIda41yvCHwYalFjmYxXUdGBw3UCFn2NiWv8lXfU
     
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    No, I understand the equation, you have come up with the wrong answer to it.
     

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