Trump to States That Won't Share Voter Data: 'What Are They Worried About?'

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  1. Bear513

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    Harry Reid lying about it and said he was glad he did it, like he did to Romney


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    Link?

    Also to answer the thread title question, Voter Suppression.
     
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    States vote in Federal elections, any state refusing to provide the Federal Government with election information shouldn't be allowed to participate in the next federal election.
     
  4. Professor Peabody

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    There ya go.
     
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    How will it suppress the vote, the commission is charged into looking into to any voter suppression and how to quell any attempts.

    Do YOU realize this is all public information the politicals parties already routinely obtain along with LOTS of other groups and companies?
     
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    What does Google have to do with anything, you walk into your country registrars office and ask for it and they will tell how much and you pay and you get it. They don't post it on Google because they make money selling the information to political parties and polling firms and election research firms and news agencies and lots of people.

    OK do that too one does not preclude the other.

    Then why do you object to such assistance as this commission can help to provide in to how to protect or elections from such tampering and illegal votes. And how much voter fraud is OK with you?

    And for you to be upset the federal government knows your SSN is quite laughable. And since you do not vote in any federal elections, there are none in this country, why does it upset you that the federal government would know, just as your state government knows, to what party you are registered if that is required in your state or which primary in which you voted if you have closed primaries? Neither knows nor has a way to determine who you actually vote for in a general election, just that you did.
     
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    My inquiry was how does not having ballots in Spanish suppress the vote? Who votes who does not speak or have a working knowledge of English?

    Suppression where? I live in the South there no voter suppression we don't have people filing claims of voter suppression.
     
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    I don't speak for the man where did you get that idea?
     
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    You apparently aren't understanding a single word I have written. Of course the federal government knows my SSN. That's not the point. My SSN, and therefore my tax record, isn't directly linked to my voting record or party affiliation. However, if this sham of a committee gets the requested information, it will be.

    I object to this committee on principle. It was formed solely to justify Trump's lie that he would have won the popular vote, if millions hadn't voted illegally, when there is absolutely no state reporting widespread voter fraud. I object to the Republican party, that used to be the party of fiscal responsibility wasting tax dollars for this, when there are some real issues, like Russia hacking into voter registrations and voting machine software. I'd much rather my tax dollars go to fixing real problems with our election system, and those don't require a federal data based of voters compiling names, addresses, party affiliation, voting record, and SSN.
     
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    I have understood exactly what you have stated if you want to try and weasel out of it now I can understand. And it remains quite laughable you are upset the federal government might learn the last four digits of your SSN, my just think if they might get the whole thing.

    Your maginations and and self serving assignment of motives do not make a case. This is all public information which LOTS of persons and groups and companies have including the political parties. Chill out.

    And the principle of the committed is to investigation the integrity of the election system and how to insure voters are not disfranchised, if you want to object to that that is your ground to defend then.
     
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    Repeating yourself doesn't make an argument. I'm not trying to weasel out of my opinion. It stands and you've posted nothing to refute it.

    Jeez… didn't you post that the voters' stuff is for sale and you could go in and buy a copy… with people's names, party affiliation, and voting record? Do you want your SSN for sale right along with your voting record and party affiliation? Have you heard the words "identity theft?"

    I can have my own opinion about this sham of a committee and my opinion counts just as much as yours. This committee will do nothing to ensure fair and free elections, and you can't prove me wrong with your opinion.
     
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    When a poster can't have a valid debate on the merits of the topic and the posts of someone that can reason you end up left with making posts like this. Your arguments/debates have always been well reasoned out and credible but you are no longer dealing with reason or reasonableness. I maybe a bit more jaded but now you are dealing with a level of ignorance that has not been seen for a while. Read this today:
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    Easily Debunked. You make this too easy.

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/s...ing-trump-voter-fraud-allegations-claim-57-m/
    http://www.snopes.com/illegal-immigrants-2008-election/

    One of the authors of the Harvard study that Agresti erroneously used,

    Heh.

    There is currently no valid objective data showing the 3-5M illegal voter theory has any merit. This is a fact.
     
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    If it's all public info, there is no need for the commission. It's already accessible.
     
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    Agresti is a mechanical engineer WTF does he know that debunks anything by why the blender failed?
     
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    But he does speak for you and your team, because his illegal list cheated the country out of a fair election.
     
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    All that info is not needed for his stated purpose. The so called "bipartisan" commission was appointed by Trump, and when has he done anything in a bipartisan manner? So don't be fooled by Trump's antics.
     
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    As a presidential candidate, Trump was normal citizen, he was not expected to release his returns.
     
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    Perhaps look.. Both links detail his false reporting... "desperate" is ignoring LEFT wing sites tell you he is full of **** and you still dont care.
     
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    Yet he said numerous times he would........but then he did not think Russia's rigging would be successful.
     
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    A voter ID would be useless useless unless presented in person.
     
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    Correct facts make an argument not made up motivations and yes every state makes the information available if you don't like it then have your state change its law but don't count on it happening that information is used for lots of purposes by lots of people.

    Hey you guys once again engaged in your knee jerk TDS reaction not realizing this is not private information that anyone can walk in and get from the state. So give it up now that you know.
     

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