Trump tweet on Intelligence Agencies

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by CourtJester, Jan 30, 2019.

  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    24,409
    Likes Received:
    4,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Does anyone need anymore proof about where Trump's allegiance lies? Nothing quite like a President determined to undermine the US intelligence agencies in an effort to weaken the country . Here are his two latest attemps in tweets

    " The Intelligence people seem to be extremely passive and naive when it comes to the dangers of Iran. They are wrong! When I became President Iran was making trouble all over the Middle East, and beyond. Since ending the terrible Iran Nuclear Deal, they are MUCH different, but....

    ....a source of potential danger and conflict. They are testing Rockets (last week) and more, and are coming very close to the edge. There economy is now crashing, which is the only thing holding them back. Be careful of Iran. Perhaps Intelligence should go back to school! "
     
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2019
  2. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    27,000
    Likes Received:
    10,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You don't think the intelligence agencies should ever be questioned?

    It's people like you who allowed Hoover and the FBI to collect private dossiers on citizens because it was wrong to ever question them or their motives.

    Shame on you and your blind allegiance to big brother.
     
    cerberus, Mac-7, Merwen and 1 other person like this.
  3. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    18,968
    Likes Received:
    3,764
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Iran is a considerably greater threat than North Korea.

    As Atheists, presumably they think their experience ends with death. As Muslims, Iranians think they'll continue in paradise.
     
  4. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    24,409
    Likes Received:
    4,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No the intelligence agencies can be questioned but it should at least be by someone with the slightest grasp of foreign affairs ( and that doesn't refer to having sex with non American citizens) That is different from a President trying to undermine and insult them. Particulary a President so stupud that he cannot even spell " warming" or who is just so ignorant that he would state that North Korea is no longer a nuclear threat or that he loves Kim.
     
  5. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    24,409
    Likes Received:
    4,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They are certainly more of a threat now that we have violated the treaty with Iran. Fortunatly the other signatories are smarter than Trump so Iran is still as of this date living up to the provisions of the treaty.
     
    ARDY likes this.
  6. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2018
    Messages:
    1,588
    Likes Received:
    469
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Don't really see anything wrong there?
     
  7. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    3,405
    Likes Received:
    1,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Except that they're professionals and know what they're doing, and he's an incompetent moron.

    Other than that, there's "nothing wrong".
     
  8. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    27,000
    Likes Received:
    10,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Or like a president that says we have 58 states?

    Like that you mean?
     
    Merwen likes this.
  9. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    3,405
    Likes Received:
    1,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How are you "banned" if you're posting?
     
    Gorgeous George likes this.
  10. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2016
    Messages:
    12,826
    Likes Received:
    1,909
    Trophy Points:
    113
    This will be the end of Donald. When the intel agencies DIRECTLY contradicted him, instead of warning him, they would say such, is a portend of things to come. Trump will get his ides of march, and likely the man to thrust the first shiv, is Mitch.
     
    Gorgeous George likes this.
  11. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    3,405
    Likes Received:
    1,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The angry cartoon turtle will draw first blood?

    That's an interesting theory. Please elaborate.
     
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2019
    Gorgeous George likes this.
  12. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    24,409
    Likes Received:
    4,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Compared to Trump that is a trivial spoken error. When you can find another President in history who claims to love a murdering dictator who starves his people please get back to us.
     
    Gorgeous George likes this.
  13. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2013
    Messages:
    24,409
    Likes Received:
    4,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well obviously Mitch is the one who got Trump to cave on his border wall shutdown. He must have some really good dirt on Trump.
     
    Gorgeous George likes this.
  14. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    27,000
    Likes Received:
    10,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't know, I didn't add it.
     
    Merwen likes this.
  15. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    27,000
    Likes Received:
    10,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you agree that Bush was right to go to war because our intelligence agencies said that Iraq had WMD's?
     
  16. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    3,405
    Likes Received:
    1,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That was just a mistake. It's not as though Obama actually believed that.

    Now, Bonespurs J. Bumbledumb actually believes the idiotic things coming out of his orange mouth, and that's really troubling.
     
    Gorgeous George likes this.
  17. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2013
    Messages:
    34,445
    Likes Received:
    13,134
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    JFK failed to question our intelligence community (CIA) and JFK signed off on the CIA Bay of Pigs and the CIA backed military coups (assassination) of South Vietnam's President Diem. From that day on America owned Vietnam and became America's problem.
     
  18. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    27,000
    Likes Received:
    10,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nice how you do that.

    Obama's screw ups are just mistakes but Donald's aren't.

    lol

    Wow, you can pretty much make up anything using that logic can't you?

    And honestly, I'd rather have a president that believes in things than one that is so stupid he can't remember how many states are in the union.

    Wouldn't you?
     
    Merwen likes this.
  19. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2012
    Messages:
    3,405
    Likes Received:
    1,501
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So, what about the particular things that the intelligence agencies disagree with Trump about?

    Making sure that you "question" the intelligence agencies doesn't mean that this is always correct, or even mostly correct.
     
    Gorgeous George and ibobbrob like this.
  20. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    27,000
    Likes Received:
    10,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well to be fair here, Bay of Pigs was Eisenhower's plan and it was already set in motion when JFK took office.

    Kennedy had no time or really no knowledge of the big picture to change it up in that point, it was already in motion.

    I give him a pass on Bay of Pigs.
     
  21. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2016
    Messages:
    12,826
    Likes Received:
    1,909
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You are copping tudes, and creating either ors for all getout. Good sign.
     
  22. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    27,000
    Likes Received:
    10,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The intelligence agencies are there to provide the president with information so he can make a decision, not to make decisions themselves.
     
    Merwen and Margot2 like this.
  23. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2013
    Messages:
    27,000
    Likes Received:
    10,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And you won't answer the question.

    You can't have it both ways.

    If Trump should listen to these people then you agree that Bush should have also which means you condone the Gulf War.

    So is that what you are saying?
     
  24. ARDY

    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2015
    Messages:
    6,642
    Likes Received:
    952
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Imo there is a distinction between the overall “theat” posed by iran, vs whether or not they are developing nuclear weapons

    We may have many reasons to dislike iran or to be suspicious of them. But saying all those things does not therfore make it true that they are now developing nukes.

    Intelligence servuced say they are not, and that nk is. Trump says that because we dont like iran.... on that basis it is foolish to say they are not developing nukes. And since kim and trump are buddies, therefore we should pretend they are not developing nukes

    Re iran, i think it is clear that we will not like iran policies in any case... whether they develop nukes or not. I prefer the case where we dislike iran but they are not developing nukes. Vs the case where we dislike iran and they are developing nukes. And i think it is reasonable to make the distinction. Which trump seems unable to do.... because all he can see is. IRAN BAD. He cannot see IRAN COULD BE WORSE
     
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2019
  25. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2016
    Messages:
    12,826
    Likes Received:
    1,909
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Mitch has been playing along, to get along. But, he HATES the personality, arrogance and dismissive attitude of Trump. And he will continue to play, till he is don't playing. He will not be caught flatfooted with the Trump albatross around his neck. That is coming very soon. He will pontificate, and distance himself. Trump will lose most allies. Mitch has already defied Trump a coupla times recently. ALL respect for Trump is GONE. That is just before the end.
     

Share This Page