Trump ups Mexico grace period for ending illegal immigration from a week to a YEAR

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  1. Mandelus

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    Source (example):

    https://www.rt.com/usa/455574-trump...notifications&utm_campaign=push_notifications

    It seems that somebody Donald Dumbass had to explain realities and facts again ... of course so that he also a 5 year old child will understand it... so that he realizes that he only says bullshit now 5,769 times since his inauguration!

    But quite smart, this demand. Now I get this with the wall slowly:
    Trump wants to force the Mexicans to build a wall in their own area on their own costs, which is directed inwards, as once the wall in East Berlin until 1989.
    It's really strange when one of the US presidents of Gorbachev demands to tear down the wall in Berlin ... and one of his successors in another place demands to rebuild a similar wall!
    If the Mexicans speed up, they can certainly hire one or the other experts from the former GDR from the Stasi or so as a consultant on how to build an effective wall and border fortification to lock up own population.
     
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  2. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A ten foot wall is only of value to someone with shares in a company that makes eleven foot ladders.

    Glad someone got to Trump on the "closing the border" crap.

    It was mostly just him shooting off his mouth. He apparently thinks the best way to get things...is by using threats.

    Mexico is laughing at him.
     
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    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    ... And the rest of the world too! ;-)
     
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    What can fix the problem is to fix the immigration laws. Since the lawmakers don't want to do that, Trump is trying to reduce the problem by some other means. Only fixing the laws will get the job done. No point in discussing the rest of it.
     
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    What I don't get is why Dirty Donald thinks that Mexico can stop all peoples, from south of them on their continent, from pouring into and crossing Mexico to the USA, while we cannot stop them pouring into our country???And why aren't we stopping those from crossing our Northern border pouring into Canada claiming political asylum???
     
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    The laws don't need fixing but enforcing.
    If we started deporting illegals en mass, say a few thousand each and every day, Mexico would soon do something about stopping the caravans.
     
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    People have a right to seek asylum at the U.S. border. I find it very telling that conservatives claim "I support immigration, just not illegal immigration" yet when people try to legally immigrate they demand Mexico stand in the way instead.
     
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    Easy, they are fraudulent asylum claims.

    Per Wikipedia: "Asylum has two basic requirements. First, an asylum applicant must establish that he or she fears persecution in their home country. Second, the applicant must prove that he or she would be persecuted on account of one of five protected grounds: race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or particular social group."

    The current stream of applicants don't meet the legal standards since none of those Central American countries are carrying on any pogroms based on those criteria.
     
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    The way I see it, this country is toast. If Trump or his republican corporate lackeys are all that is left for conservatives to put their faith in then its all over. Trump has done absolutely nothing for working class Americans.
     
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    Trump signed the VA veteran choice program into law, you don't think that helped anyone?
     
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    The laws do need fixing. Your solution is illegal.
     
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    Trump signed a bunch of stuff into law but very little of it helps the average working American.
     
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    How is it illegal? If you wish I can point out the Federal laws regarding entering and remaining in the US without proper documentation.
     
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    The walls are much taller than 10 feet. And they work. When the wall was built in San Diego, illegal crossings dropped 99%.

    Why is it so difficult for you to understand this? Help me help you.
     
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    WTF are you talking about? Do you have any understanding of the citizenship laws in Mexico or Canada? The alt-lefties would be out in the streets in their pussyhats screeching to the sky if Trump suggested we adopt one-half of the requirements of either of those two countries.
     
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    Any country which fails to do its part will have criminal illegals released at random points in their country without notice. Lol.
     
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    The right has gone from "tear down that wall" to "build that wall."

    Pathetic.

    The walls DO NOT WORK.

    But...build them. After all...Trump promised them.
     
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    Walls work in populated areas.
     
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    If a person is too stupid to work his/her way around a "wall"...he/she has a lot more serious problems than "how do I get into the US."

    Walls are a joke. Trump's promise to build the wall and get Mexico to pay for it...was a bumper sticker...not presidential planning.
     
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    I’m on the fence regarding the wall. I do think having the wall along entire stretch of the border is a waste of money. At the same time, having a wall near areas where people live on both sides is beneficial.
    I think a proper design would be a tall solid wall that goes from 20-30 miles before a settlement and ends 20-30 miles after, which would continue with a cheaper wall for another 20-30 miles and then place just surveillance cameras every mile or two until the next wall. Spotting illegals from a helicopters in the middle of the desert is easy and cameras will alert border patrol of the crossings.
    Walking 20-30 miles in a desert is a very difficult task, which will discourage majority of attempts.
     
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    I am not against fencing...but I think the money can be put to better use. This "wall" thing seems to be mostly Trump trying to keep part of a ill-advised promise he made during an election.

    In any case, some people trying to get into America walk a thousand miles to make the attempt. I just do not think a few more miles to get around a fence will make an appreciable difference.
     
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    The fencing system I described would prevent many illegal crossings, not all. If someone is willing to walk 1000 miles to get into the US then I’d almost advocate that persons legal admission. I think a fairly easy way to go around the border is to get on a simple boat at night 20-30 miles from the border, turn off all lights and go north along the coast using GPS. I doubt there are coast guards sitting in the ocean watching for boats every few miles. If I were willing to walk 1000 miles I’d try that option.
     
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    I think it is quite shrewd, using Mexico as a barrier, Mexico must now choose...to remain "with" the US they must strengthen their southern border and deal with migrants on their way to the US or they will be cut off with the rest of South America, this is essentially the threat.
     
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    The Berlin Wall did work for the Soviets. It was extremely hard to cross.
     

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