Trump used $58 million from the donor to pay his legal fees

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    . . . because he used his charity's funds for his personal legal fees. His charity was shut down as a result. They had to pay the money back and they are forbidden from running a charity in the future. Again, you need to label the truth "fascist smears" is on you, not me.
     
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    Are you sure that is the truth? Perhaps you need to look closer at the story. You don't have your facts right.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I'm sure that's the truth. You should read up more if you are still confused.
     
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    It was closed as a settlement with the court.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/nyregion/ny-ag-underwood-trump-foundation.html

    I've posted link after link on thise. I've even given search strngs so people could read about it from sources they like.

    Trump's criminal acts of misappropriating tax advantaged donations are well documented.
     
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    Once again you aren't using critical thinking. Just a fascist smear that you have heard so often that you believe it to be true. That's what fascist do. They repeat a lie over and over until people believe it is true. You have now become a party to the fascist smear tactic.
     
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    This isn't critical thinking. You need a little self examination.
     
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    Obviously you don't, given your undying support of Brokeahontas...
     
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    They've admitted it, sweetheart: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-foundation-idUSKBN13H1O8

    Trying to politicize truth-telling, on the other hand, is an ACTUAL fascist tactic. When the truth offends your politics, it is time to re-examine your politics. Please read. Please do your homework. Please tell the truth.
     
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    If you have different facts, now would be the time to present them.
     
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    I should also point out that Trump has not paid into this charity in years. It would be a bad excuse even if he had, because that would still be tax evasion, but he hasn't. He took money that people thought they were giving for charity, and he used it for personal gain. He lied to them just like he lied to his "university" students (BTW, he also admitted to those lies under oath). He took money that didn't belong to him. They admitted it. They had to pay it back after the court decision. They are forbidden from running charities in the future because of their misdeeds.
     
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    So like I said, you have fallen prey to the idiotic left wing fake news media and their fascist smear tactics.

    I'm about to blow your mind. Once you see this, you should begin to question everything you think you know about Donald Trump. Okay, ready? Hear it goes:

    First of all I want to point out this, in the article that you posted from the New York Times it points out that Trump himself was the sole contributor to his foundation until 2009. That means it was HIS F'ING MONEY!. WHY WOULD HE STEAL HIS OWN MONEY?!

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    The accusations that Trump diverted money from the charity has been thrown around so often that in the minds of liberals it becomes a fact.

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    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...uttigieg-falsely-says-donald-trump-illegally/

    But if you want to know the truth, it is in the article you yourself posted. Trump was being harassed by a now disgraced liberal NY prosecutor with a vendetta. His campaign staff volunteered to help the charity to organize the disbursement of funds raised by a charitable event he held in IOWA. He himself donated ONE MILLION DOLLARS to this event. They raised between 5 and 6 million dollars. This is what the whole "scandal" was about. That his campaign staff did the work and not paid charity staffers.

    Now, here is the full press conference which he makes a full accounting of how the funds were distributed. So the media took what was a good thing, raising money for veterans and used that selfless act into a fake scandal.

     
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    The portraits? Did you read the f'ing story in you link? It isn't illegal for a charity to buy property, even it that is a portrait of the founder of the charity. That is probably a common practice in fact.
     
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    They didn't just buy a property. They paid his personal legal fees. Yes, that's illegal. As for buying property, it's a fake argument to say that anyone claimed that it is illegal for a charity to buy property. A fake argument. No one claimed that. It IS illegal for a charity to buy property for the unreported personal benefit of someone else, rather than for charity purposes. This, like paying someone's personal legal fees is an illegal act known as "self-dealing" . . . which they admitted to. That's why they had to give the money back to REAL charitable causes. That's why the "charity" had to shut down. That's why its board is now forbidden from running a charity. Catch up.
     
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    He is a billionaire. It makes no sense that Trump needs to steal money from a charity to pay a small legal fee for a minor legal issue when he is the person that PUT THE MONEY INTO THE CHARITY!

    The charity wasn't forced to close. According to the NYT article posted earlier -
    The President's intention was to close the charity if elected, but was BLOCKED FROM DOING SO BY THE VINDICTIVE PROSECUTOR!

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    Trump may or may not be a billionaire. The few records we have from him show him operating at a loss. Regardless, what you think "makes sense" or not doesn't matter. They took money from the charity in self-dealing. They admitted it. This is illegal. The charity had to shut down because of this. You even quoted the fact that they had to shut down as part of their settlement. They also had to give the money back and ACTUALLY spend it on charity this time. As for your claim that he paid into the charity to begin with 1) That wouldn't make self-dealing legal and 2) He hasn't paid into the charity in years. Please work up the gumption to fact the facts. They won't stop being facts just because they offend the darling.
     
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    I think some of the fake news stories surrounding the legal fees had something to do with this story:

    Trump had an 80-foot flagpole installed in the front setback of the private club in October 2006. The work was done without a permit, and the height and location of the pole violated town ordinances.

    He sued the town in December 2006 for $10 million over repeated demands that he withdraw the pole. He later increased the damage demand to $25 million. The town began fining Trump $1,250 a day on Jan. 6, 2007, for the code violations.

    So how did the meeting come out? Trump and Palm Beach agreed to settle the lawsuit that weekend. (Trump wasn’t there, though.)

    As part of the pact, Trump was to erect a 70-foot flagpole farther inland on the front lawn of his estate and the town would waive the $120,000 in code fines. Trump also was to contribute $100,000 to charities that deal with Iraq war veterans or the U.S. flag or to the local veterans’ hospital.

    The flap officially ended on April 27, 2007, when the two sides signed off on a settlement that waived the fines and killed the lawsuit.
    https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/...er-mar-lago-flag-flap/BCGsBpV44T0RojdPzefilN/

    So the $100,000 paid to the veterans group was paid by his charity. It wasn't used to pay his legal fees.
     
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    That did't counter anything the NYTimes story stated.

    And, there are many sources.

    The charitable foudation funds WERE misappropriated.
     
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    They've admitted to self-dealing. They. Have. Admitted. It. They had to shut down as a result. They had to pony up the cash and ACTUALLY put it toward charity this time. The board is forbidden from running a charity in NY in the near future. Those are the facts. Please address the facts.
     
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    Not grifting in the slightest. In your own words ...


    I mean hey, they are your own words and all. Feel free to dispute them. *chuckle*
     
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    The veterans donations are an entirely separate issue. It has nothing to do with the Trump Foundation's closure. You are running away from the facts with fake distractions.
     
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    The quote that he was forced to close was from the post I was quoting. The actual NYT article which I posted a screen shot of TOTALLY DEBUNKS THAT!

    Self dealing Is not illegal. Why would an IRS form ask it there were any self dealings? If it was that easy to catch criminals our tax forms would ask us to list the crimes we committed over the past year. TRY USING SOME COMMON SENSE!
     
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    Are you talking about the NYT article that was about an entirely different issue -- the veteran donations? Why did the Trump Foundation have to close down, by court order? Why did they have to pay back the money to charity? Why is their board forbidden from running a charity in the future?

    Please, please look up self-dealing. Look up the case in question.
     
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