Trump vows to end birthright citizenship.

Were I a Latino American, I'd be glad just like any American. I'd be glad because it is job security, less crime, fewer threats to my family, less chaos in schools, easier on law enforcement, easier on all public services like hospitals, emergency services and schools. It would also give me hope for the future of my country and my family. All that Trump would do is acknowledge our borders and uphold common sense laws. And that's a warm sobering thing, like fresh home baked bread.

 

Please tell me you're not serious? Because on a scale of 1 to 10. 1 being the dumbest thing I've ever read, I'd rate it a -4 on the Durrr scale.

 

I'll admit, I have no idea what you're talking about. It sounds like a different topic

 

It's been done before, multiple times, and that document stopped mattering remember? "Don't thank the constitution." - Scalia

 

He clearly mentioned cities and suburbias, which have a much higher population density than the statistic you cited, which includes large sections of mostly uninhabitable/federally protected land.

Illegals cost California alone upwards of 10 billion a year. When the whole country is factored in, I'd be surprised if any objective person could say it was a "few billion" saved.

Clearly you're in favor of any group that is likely to vote left-wing Democrat, but how are illegal alien Hispanics "exactly the sort of people we want?" Is their unwillingness or inability to learn English a good thing? How about the prevalence of Hispanic gangs such as MS-13 and the Mexican Mafia? Is it their disproportionately high welfare usage, or their penchant for working under the table and sending their money out of the country?

Many illegal aliens are working under the table, paying no taxes. Of course, I'm sure you knew that when you replied to his post.

Fining businesses who knowingly hire illegals is definitely a big piece of the puzzle. Unfortunately, the biggest employer of illegals is the Government. They should not be allowed to come here, have kids, and then start soaking up welfare benefits. The 14th Amendment was never meant to be abused in this way. As long as that remains US policy, they will continue to come here.

 

Birthright no Birthright. I think it's a argument that doesn't have to be made.

The solution is to localize the enforcement. Illegal immigration is ultimately a local issue. Require and fund the local law enforcement agencies in checking residency and detaining those not legally here.

Local law enforcement knows who is legal and who is not. Detain those who come into contact with the system as a suspect, turn them over to the jurisdiction of the feds for final determination. Deport them. It's a local issue where the interaction is the highest, focus here. The self deporting or earnest attempt to become legal will follow naturally.

There is a near zero requirement for a show me your papers moment. Anyone else been pulled over for a traffic infraction lately? No license necessary, name and date of birth pulls up on the cruisers computer your license info and visage.

Give the power to the agencies that interact 1000% more with everyday folks than the Border Patrol: sheriff's and local governments and police.

Cheers
Labour

 

Wasn't Trump's father a birthright baby?

 

Nope....

 

One might be able to make the argument that natural born is an archaic concept. Think about modern transportation. Think 75 Years ago, think practically as it relates to case law through the years. If an illegal immigrant birthed a child in Colorado 50 years ago the chances were nearly 100% that the family was here for life with no practical way to leave.

It's a new world, perhaps it's time for an updated view of natural born?

Cheers
Labour

 

Because the socialists want to make everyone eligible that will vote socialist to vote in the elections. No price is to high for a vote for their party. Similar to what the communists did in the communist revolutions in Europe. But no democrats ever bother studying history and the consequences of their actions do they? They only care about "winning".

 

LOL, it is not the Democrats that will see to it that Trump will never be President, it will be Republicans.

 

I don't know. Certainly it wasn't the intent of the drafters of the 14th amendment to grant citizenship to any baby whose mother managed to sneak across the border and give birth on this side of the line.

Nothing in the Constitution requires citizenship for the child of an illegal alien born on US soil. Congress can give citizenship to anyone it wants, the Fourteenth Amendment only confers citizenship to persons born on U.S. soil to parents who are not citizens of a foreign country. It is under the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) that a illegal alien giving birth on U.S. soil confers US citizenship on the baby.

Then this baby is used as an anchor to justify the illegal parents staying in the U.S. for the rest of their lives. If one or both parents are outside the US, this justifies bringing them into the US, for good. So as a result of their first illegal entry, they now get entry forever.

Congress made the law, Congress can change it whenever they want to. Current immigration law, 8 U.S.C. § 1401(a)–specifies that a baby born on American soil to (1) a foreign ambassador, (2) head of state, or (3) foreign military prisoner is not an American citizen, are the 3 exceptions unconstitutional? Of course not. The 14th amendment includes the words “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.”

The Citizenship Clause was intended to overrule the most infamous Supreme Court case in American history–the 1857 Dred Scott case–and ensure free blacks born in America could not be denied citizenship. It was never designed to make a citizen of every child born to a foreigner.

The purpose of the rule was to grant citizenship to the recently freed slaves and Congress needs to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to put an end to the nonsense.

This would save the US Billions of dollars annually, therefore it can be passed through reconciliation on a majority vote. We need a Congress that will pass it and a President that will sign it, and we need both in 2017.

 

Justice Gray in WKA

So look to the 1866 Civil Rights Act, which is merely a law that can be easily changed.

 

Not this stupidity again. What Mexican Americans are being run out from their homes and the lands they lived on? Illegal immigrants never lived within our now borders at any time prior to them coming here illegally.

 

Basic research would do you well. His father was born in NYC, Woodhaven borough of Queens. His Grandparents were German immigrants from 1885.

 

Mexican Americans lived here hundreds of years before the white settlers, and they were not illegal. That is a term the white settlers invented later on after their invasion. If any group of people are illegal, it is the white settlers with their bogus invention of illegal; http://combatingglobalization.com/articles/Reclaiming_Their_Stolen_Birthright.html

 

It's not a convenient topic to understand. That's why!

 

No they didn't. The first peoples that are within the now US have never lived in Mexico and vice versa. The few tribes that are along the now border have legal access to both countries. Beyond that, your claim is inept. Take your Mexica Movement propaganda and go elsewhere.

So you are claiming the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo is nix? Mexicans in those annexed areas had the choice of relocating to within Mexico's new boundaries or receiving American citizenship with full civil rights. Over 90% chose to become US citizens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo

 

Why is it Republicans want to live in Nazi Germany??? The RNC just needs to say it in their campaign ads "Whites Only"

 

If congress just passed a law stating any child born of an illegal alien is not a citizen or something akin to those words in legalese. It would immediately be taken to the SCOTUS. Now what the SCOTUS would do with the challenge is up to them. They could let Justice Waite ruling stand, they could refuse to hear the case citing the 1866 law or they could agree to hear it. Who knows? But I think one can guarantee a constitutional challenge ASAP after such a law was passed.

There are many ways to take that first sentence of the 14 amendment. But if it happens, then we shall see what happens.

 

It would have to have someone that is affected by the law make the claim and take it to court, it may reach the SC or it may not. The SC could to take it up once it reached their level.

I agree

 

Why don't we just make everyone in the world a US citizen?

 

As I said earlier

Who is and who is not a citizen is spelled out in the 8 US Code1401

So we change US Code by legislation to specially state that the parents must be here legally and under the complete jurisdiction of the United States, ie legally and for the purpose of becoming naturalized citizens, that gets challenged and gets a case up the chain to the SCOTUS, the original intent of the congress is presented to SCOTUS and the law upheld.

 

I think there is a simpler answer; you're not making any sense in relation to the topic.

 

I was referring to your statement on illegal immigration, not lending my support to Trump. The real issue in the country now is wage deflation. Mass immigration is one of the root causes of it.