Trump vs Biden Election 2020 Odds

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If the election were held today, who would you vote for?

Poll closed Dec 2, 2020.
  1. President Trump

    33 vote(s)
    58.9%
  2. Joe Biden

    19 vote(s)
    33.9%
  3. other

    1 vote(s)
    1.8%
  4. undecided

    3 vote(s)
    5.4%
  1. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    I voted, but I don't think the poll will be representative of the general election because it doesn't allow Democrats to mail out about 80 million extra ballots.
     
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    Trump has gone down yet again 1 point to 22. Biden remains the same at 77.

    Screenshot_20200921-070625_Chrome.jpg

    The RCP average is now at 6.5% lead for Biden an increase of .6%.

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    Ya, that's pretty silly.

    But great rant, really terrific!
    I've seen quite a few rants so this comes from the heart. Great work.

    I do think Biden is favored yes, but I'd suggest that you are projecting your views too strongly. Don't underestimate the weakness of Biden as a candidate.

    The next 45 days should be fun. But it also may become overwhelming to the point that I completely tune out. My decision has been made for potus and house rep, no Senate on my ballot.
     
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    (original)late Banned

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    222 Biden
    Trump 125
    Toss Ups
    191

    That's the RCP current estimate. 538 did a simulation that had Biden winning 77% of the time.

    Only way Trump can win is by cheating.
     
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    Cancel the election. RPC and 538 have spoken.
     
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    That's Trump.
     
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    In 2016 the Right did not believe polling returns because they defied logic since Trump was hammering crowds and having massive rallies whereas Hillary was generally having great difficulty filling up Starbuck's venues . . . when she wasn't so BLATANTLY physically ill that she had to cancel. Ditto for 2020. It's almost a perfect repeat from Trump EASILY filling up massive venues to Biden cowering in his basement and refusing to accept meaningful question whenever he dares leave those confines. Biden is BLATANTLY suffering from severe mental problems . . . and so, no, Right of Center people are NOT believing logic-defying polling numbers returns from companies obviously working for the political interests of the DNC.
     
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    The polls are a little better than they were 4 years ago. Back then, 538 posted a long article about polling and statistics, the point being that they thought Trump could win.

    There is a lot of randomness in our elections, I mean a lot. Trump played long odds and won, but it took Comey and Russia to make it happen. Even without them, if you could rerun that election, 9 times out of 10 Hillary would win. If Comey had kept his yap shut, or if Putin didn't screw with us, Trumps odds would have been one in a hundred.

    There are also significant differences between Biden and Hillary. But you know that, you're whistling past the graveyard.
     
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    Dang, you know I look at that awesome chart and I think what is the point of voting, I am telling all my conservative friends not to bother now.
     
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    I don't appreciate you bringing your Russian conspiracy hoax into a serious thread. Please stay in the conspiracy theories forums.

    Thank you

    The Management
     
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    The RPC average of polls moved twice since my last update. It went down .1% then up again to 7.1% for a net gain of .5% Odds are same as last report. Screenshot_20200921-070658_Chrome.jpg Screenshot_20200923-165317_Chrome.jpg
     
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    Facts ain't theories.
     
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    There was no collusion. Russia didn't change one vote. Unless you were tricked into voting Trump, I haven't met one person who was.
     
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    good con artists convinces the mark to just hand over money willingly ...

    the people that are taken by grifters never know they were conned..

    and even when most people learn that a grifter has taken advantage of their ignorance

    the mark will never admit being taken

    if the russians knew they could not influence the election and help trump they would not do it

    every report says russia is meddling in the elections in the USA

    and they do a wonderful job

    they got trump in the whitehouse and the people that voted for him have NO clue they have been hustled

    and that is exactly the plan of the russians

    they put out information ignorant people will believe ..

    then those very people do EXACTLY as russia wants

    all the while they laugh at the ignorance of trumpers
     
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    I voted for Trump for ideological reasons. The Russians had no say in it. There's no way I would have voted for Crooked Hillary. The assertions that Russia did have any influence is an unproven assertion.
     
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    I am pretty sure Trump will win despite being a disaster of a president. Remember, Biden is running to become president. If he loses, he goes back to a very comfortable, private life. Trump is running to avoid prosecution. If he loses, all the prosecutors investigating the criminal acts he has "allegedly" committed will get to proceed, and his future will at best be fighting criminal cases, and at worst, will be spending time in prison. He and his supporters will do everything and anything to ensure he wins. I don't think the Democrats are equal to the fight ahead.
     
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    Not what the FBI counterintelligence division is saying.

    Like the guy said, alt-reality is just another name for lying.
     
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    trump is too stupid to have an ideology My guess is trump does not even know what an ideology is

    the Russians made sure that Hillary was slandered.
    They did it so well that even when trump admitted to enjoy grabbing em by the pu$$y , even the fathers of daughters accepted his disgusting behavior and supported him

    I have been a Republican my entire life.

    But I drew the line at trump

    unlike others, I have not been a victim of trumps con game

    Yesterday in trumps own words he refused to agree to a smooth transfer of power when he loses.
    He clearly said the election will be decided by the SCOTUS. Not the voters.

    even with his grifter talents and Russia’s help he will not steal the next election.

    The USA cannot take any more of a lying scumbag sleeping in the white house
     
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    This conspiracy crap doesn't deserve a reply. Trump hasn’t broken the law. Crooked Hillary and Obama did and they weren't prosecuted.

    We don't prosecute our former presidents.
     
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    Is that the same FBI Counterintelligence division that spied on President Trump and then tried to frame him for Russian collusion?
     
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    Aren't you the guy whining about conspiwacy theowies yesterday??

    Why yes, you are!
     
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    As a republican, tell me which of these Trump accomplishments you disagree with:
    Lower taxes
    Lower unemployment
    Eliminating Regulations
    Rebuilding the military
    Build a wall and fix immigration
    Embassy to Jerusalem
    No new wars/getting us out of endless wars
    Peace agreements with Israel and UAE, Bahrain
    Peace agreement with Kosovo & Serbia
    New trade deals
    New manufacturing plants and jobs
    First Step Act
    Three Originalists on the SCOTUS
    300 Judges
    And many more things.. Check out Whitehouse.gov

    There is no proof the Russians hacked the DNC & Podesta.

    Trump never said he grabbed women by the *****. Biden has a credible accuser who says he grabbed her by the *****.
    What con game? He has filled his promises.

    The only con job is the ones the democrats and media pulled on you, like the grab 'em by the ***** October surprise.
    Are you not aware of the coup attempt by the democrats? The phony Mueller investigation and failed impeachment attempt? The democrats are the ones who haven't accepted a smooth transfer of power.

    The democrats are the ones changing election laws against their own state laws by flooding ballot boxes with 80 million unsolicited ballots. They have admitted he's going to win on election night in a landslide but they will try to overturn the results in the weeks that follow. They've telegraphed their plot.
    Russia would love a weak leader like Biden (Harris). I don't think Puttin is too happy with billions of dollars to NATO, our revitalized military spending, 200 dead Russian mercs, Russian sanctions and Space Force. You have to be real here. Stop spouting Democrat talking points and lies. You don't sound like much of a republican.
     
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    Obama spied on his campaign. Are you really saying that is a conspiracy theory?
     
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    if allowing myself to be a victim of a con man means being a good republican , then yes , I am not much of a republican

    the accomplishments you have listed are the talking points of trump...

    they are simply photo opportunities for trump...others do the work and trump claims responsibility..

    lower taxes for the rich was in the works long before trump conned his way into the whitehouse

    and besides, lower taxes are only temporary for working people...they are permanent for corporations and the very wealthy

    lower unemployment was a trend that was started long before trump....I hate to say it Obuma created more jobs that trump

    eliminated regulations is a horrible idea....

    the planet is dying by the second and there must be regulations to at least make an attempt to save the air we breath and water we drink

    rebuild the military?? how many nukes do we need??

    build a wall and mexico will pay for it was only one of trumps con games...it is kinda sad some believed it could happen

    a wall across, texas, new mexico and arizona?? give me a break...

    there was already a wall across California that had tunnels under it that were air conditioned

    embassy moved to jerusalem...ok but trump did not move it...Netanyahu moved it

    trump only agreed to pay the moving cost

    I could dispute every one of your talking points...but why waste my time

    face it...trump may be the best con man in history

    and anybody that defends him is a "mark"
     
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    That was a terrible rebuttal. NOT only did you not give him credit for all the good things I listed, you refused to acknowledge them as good and made some out to be bad. You failed to speak to each one separately.

    You also failed to acknowledge my points about democrat election meddling. About the ballots and changing the laws regarding voting in the middle of an election. About the democrats spying & Access Holywood tape.

    Do you still believe the fine people hoax or the Mexicans are rapist hoax? If you are republican I would say that ideologically you're more in line with democrat policies.
     

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