Trump wants to impose work requirement for food stamp users

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  1. Bluesguy

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    What is asinine is blaming other people for the failure of the parents, if anyone is "punishing" the children is the parents and their bad choices. One way to break institutional poverty is to convince the upcoming generations it's not where they want to be.
     
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    Yes all those women should have been forced to stay at home and just have babies and make sure the man's drink was waiting at the door when he got home a hot supper in the oven.
     
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    Oh please stop with the dramatics.

    Why do you seem to believe everyone besides yourself is helpless, or do you believe that of yourself too?
     
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    How about make her and the father provide for the child they created?
     
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    Gingrich and Kasich did it not Clinton. It was part of the Contract With America.
     
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    Gotta love well-off people telling the poor they don't deserve food. We're letting them pick up canned groceries not buying them steak dinners. Despite what conservatives may think, welfare isn't a scam to live a life of luxury without work. Is their any information do back up this notion that everyone on welfare is gluttonous freeloader or is this just another smokescreen from the right to avoid saying how much they despise the poor?
     
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    President Bill Clinton signed PRWORA into law on August 22, 1996, fulfilling his 1992 campaign promise to "end welfare as we have come to know it".
     
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    No. Just that if you are able bodied, that you will need to work, in order to receive benefits. There is nothing strange or unusual about working to support yourself. In fact, that is the very thing the folks that pay the taxes that provide these benefits do. And the sense of dignity that comes with it? Not to be missed!

    Why do you want to rob the deserving poor of their dignity?
     
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    No one is telling anyone what they "deserve ". What they are being told is that you are able bodied you are expected to seek and gain employment and ways to provide for youself. You dont deserve the labor or wealth of others to provide for you.

    And your strawman "luxury" comment, people will live a moderate lifestyle on welfare on the backs of others and scam the system to live a very comfortable life instead of providing for themselves.
     
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    True, but promoting the idea wages should be high enough so a man can support his family and his wife take care of the children (like it was before liberals enlightened us) is retrograde now. Employers pay what they calculate is enough to satisfy the hired, if his wife is contributing her income to the household he will settle for less.

    I prefer the single breadwinner arrangement with the wife at home raising the children, this model produced healthy families where children had good role models, learned social values and had a stable environment.
     
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    It was Gingrich and Kasich who wrote the bill Clinton did not want to sign but ultimately Dick Morris convinced him to else he would lkse reelection. All he did was sign the bill. He had already veto'd two previous Republican attempts.
     
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    Which is one of the requirements before legislation becomes US law.

    Today, I have signed into law H.R. 3734, the "Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996." This legislation provides an historic opportunity to end welfare as we know it and transform our broken welfare system by promoting the fundamental values of work, responsibility, and family.

    This Act honors my basic principles of real welfare reform. It requires work of welfare recipients, limits the time they can stay on welfare, and provides child care and health care to help them make the move from welfare to work.

    It demands personal responsibility, and puts in place tough child support enforcement measures. It promotes family and protects children.

    Most important, this Act is tough on work. Not only does it include firm but fair work requirements, it provides $4 billion more in child care than the vetoed bills—so that parents can end their dependency on welfare and go to work—and maintains health and safety standards for day care providers. The bill also gives States positive incentives to move people into jobs and holds them accountable for maintaining spending on welfare reform. In addition, it gives States the ability to create subsidized jobs and to provide employers with incentives to hire people off welfare.

    This Act includes the tough personal responsibility and child support enforcement measures that I proposed 2 years ago. It requires minor mothers to live at home and stay in school as a condition of assistance. It cracks down on parents who fail to pay child support by garnishing their wages, suspending their driver's licenses, tracking them across State lines, and, if necessary, making them work off what they owe.

    For these reasons, I am proud to have signed this legislation.


    WILLIAM J. CLINTON

    The White House, August 22, 1996.
     
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    Flame bait thread/closed
     
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