TRUMP wants to take away your guns. Well, some cops and others.

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Donald Trump doubled down on his call for implementation of stop-and-frisk Thursday — but only in Chicago.

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Trump also suggested the officer who fatally shot Crutcher had "choked" (he had previously described the police officers who shot and killed Alton Sterling and Philando Castile in the same way) and should not be employed as a police officer. "Was she choking? What happened?" Trump asked in his usual extemporaneous manner. "But maybe people like that, people that choke, people that do that maybe they can't be doing what they're doing, okay? They can't be doing what they're doing."
http://reason.com/blog/2016/09/21/trump-responds-to-terrence-crutcher-shoo
But that I THINK is mostly for womany cops.

Folks, if you are a CONCEALED CARRIER, you will most likely be stopped in an abrupt fashion, by cops that notice your unseasonal attire. And EVERY TIME they do so, you run the risk of being violently killed. THAT IS WHY TRUMP SCALED BACK stop and frisk. That is for them MINORITIES and them URBAN FOLK, not us decent folk.

 

People who conceal carry run very little risk of a deadly police encounter.
It's very simple, you just comply with the officers direction, you politely advise the officer that you are licensed to carry, you tell them where on your body that it is, and you politely provide your license.
I have trained many minority folks for their CCW. I've never heard of any problems.

There is one thing that people that have been shot by police have in common ...... they resist and don't comply.

BTW... what is "unseasonable attire"? I live in Florida, we mostly all wear shorts and tee shirts, and there are approximately 1.5 million CCWs.

 

There is unreasonable attire, pants that are half off and expose the butt ugly for everyone to see.

 

I agree with this for the most part, some exceptions, but for the most part this is at heart of issue

but people have fight or flight responses, so just panicking and trying to get away should not get you shot (unless the crime would warrant it)

selling single cigarettes on a street corner no..... running from an armed bank robbery or murder... yes

prohibition is a huge problem and the reason many get a flight response imo, time to end the war on drugs

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People only run when they don't want to get caught. Law abiding folks have no reason to panic and don't run.

 

the war on drugs makes criminals of non criminals imo

you take a nice family drinking wine with dinner, arrest them for nothing more then drinking wine with dinner, give them a criminal record, it's the gateway to crime for many

 

NRA supports Trump.

 

The guy selling cigarettes didn't die because a cop choked him to death, he died because he was extremely obese and unhealthy.

 

no, he died because of the choke hold, don't be silly

he also died because no one helped him after he was down, no cpr, no nothing

 

His airway was not damaged.

You do not die from a choke hold. A choke hold is designed to cut off blood flow to your brain, causing unconsciousness. It is not designed to crush the trachea.

He resisted arrest, was taken to the ground, a choke hold was applied. While the choke hold was applied he was screaming "i can't breathe" (11 times apparently). Pro-tip: if you can't breathe, you can't scream.

None of these things will kill someone unless they are incredibly obese and in poor general health. I've been put in choke holds and slammed to the ground who knows how many times in training. Thankfully I don't have 300lbs of fat putting pressure on my lungs or I could have died too.

 

choke holds are banned for a reason, people die as happened here.. over what, selling single cigarettes on a street corner

' None of these things will kill someone unless they are incredibly obese and in poor general health. "

then the cops should know this and not do it... duh

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tip, you can breath when having trouble breathing... maybe every once and a wile he got just a little breath

fact is, he did say this and he did die... proving your wrong

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All he had to do was cooperate and let the officers cuff him.

He decided to resist, and was made to eat pavement.

Don't resist, and lay off the twinkies, and he would be alive right now after paying his fine.

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You're not going to be screaming at the top of your lungs "I can't breathe" 11 times without a plentiful supply of air.

 

if you get a couple second reprieve from choking, you scream as loud as you can, not sure how loud he screamed it

 

So he apparently wasn't very bright either. When you're having trouble breathing, you might not want to waste those huge volumes of air currently in your lungs.

 

And the training manual for police officers in the state of New York states to not touch the neck of the suspect. The officer in question decided to disregard such instructions, and proceed with such anyway.

 

oh give me a break, when your being chocked by a thug cop you want to yell for help so hopefully he stops, in this case the killer cop kept killing

but yes, let's blame the victim cause he should of known better then to cry for help....

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And what actions on the part of Eric Garner warranted, necessitated, or justified the use of a tactic that every police officer in the state of New York is trained to understand as being illegal?

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The above only applied with regard to uniformed and identifiable police officers who are conducting themselves appropriately. It does not apply when police officers are without uniform, without visible identification, and engaging in behavior akin to violent criminals.

 

Doing something illegal, then resisting arrest is what got him on the ground.

My point was not about the justification of using a chokehold, but that using one did not prevent Garner from breathing. This is easily shown by having no damage to his airways as well as the fact that screaming requires a lot of air.

I'm not trying to justify the usage of an illegal hold, but it's not what killed him, nor did it prevent him from breathing.

 

Sure, by screaming his head off non-associated cops will rush to his aid.

What he should have known better was engaging in criminal behavior, albeit minor, then resisting arrest.

If he had cooperated, or been 200lbs lighter, he would still be alive.

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Again, I'm not justifying the usage of a choke hold, I'm just saying it didn't kill him.

It would be more appropriate to call it a sleeper hold than a choke hold, since he obviously was having no problem screaming while it was applied.

 

OP, dunno. But Trump is a liar and can't be trusted. At least Hillary is honest. She says she will go after the guns upfront.

 

There is a WHOLE reality show called, WHY DID I RUN. MANY folks panic.

 

BULL, you can yell till all your air is spent.

 

Such apologetics in the face of facts, is embarrassing.

 

Knowing the reality of the climate today and the one that runs is stupid and they're asking to get hurt.