Trump wins on border security with emergency declaration and funding by Congress

They hire a coyote to lead them across the wilderness. Leaving a trail if trash in their wake...........



....leaving an environment disaster in their wake. I can only wonder how many desert tortoises got tangled up in that mess.

 

What happened to Mexico paying for it? Then remember how Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall when they imported items into the US? Then remember how taxpayers were going to pay for it? Then remember how Trump half government workers hostage for 30 or so days to get funding for the wall? Now Trump is dipping into the pockets for real national emergencies when both California and Puerto Rico could use that funding.

Trump has less vertebrae than a jellyfish. 9/11 and Pearl Harbor were national emergencies, building a wall that won’t do much is not a national emergency. Trump loses again.

How does it feel to lose and embarrass the country time after time?

 

They should have taken his original daca for wall offer but they chose being spiteful instead

 

And Trump said Mexico would pay for this wall. It is good that you can finally admit that he lied.

 

He did? The Times reports, "President Trump declared a national emergency at the border on Friday to access billions of dollars to build a border wall that Congress refused to give him, transforming a highly charged policy dispute into a fundamental confrontation over separation of powers.

"In a televised announcement in the Rose Garden, Mr. Trump said he would sign the declaration to protect the country from the flow of drugs, criminals and illegal immigrants coming across the border from Mexico, which he characterized as a profound threat to national security."

In the first place, Trump has this moronic idea that a border wall will stop criminals and drugs from entering our country. He mistakenly associates various crimes by illegal aliens to a border wall. Notice how he avoids mentioning the wall. “We’re going to confront the national security crisis on our southern border and we’re going to do it one way or the other. It’s an invasion. We have an invasion of drugs and criminals coming into our country. We don't control our own border. We're going to confront the national security crisis on our southern border and we're going to do it -- one way or the other we have to do it.”

"IT!" He knows his wall is stupid and ineffectual, and he avoids using the term. The majority of drugs come through ports of entry, and his wall will not even slow down criminals from entering our country. He wants the wall because he made an outrageous campaign promise that is already broken. Mexico is not going to pay for any wall. Unfortunately, 60 million Americans have forgotten that fact, somehow think Trump's wall will stop crime, and support his medieval wall instead of 21st Century methods that will do a better job at less cost.

In the second place, either intentionally or inadvertently, Trump is acting like a Russian agent. Putin's dream is to weaken the American government and throw it into chaos.

In December, contrary to the wishes of his own party, Trump proudly shut down the government over his border wall. It was the longest shutdown in American history. Now he is challenging the Separation of Powers concept contained in our Constitution, once again in opposition to his own party along with the Democrats. Congress appropriates funds. Trump wants to challenge Congress and go around the legislative branch.

In other words, Trump, all on his own, is creating a Constitutional crisis. Putin has to be smiling. He could not be more pleased with what Trump is doing.

Either by accident or by design or through sheer stupidity, Trump is acting like an agent for the Russian Federation. I do not understand how Americans who represent his fan base can support him on this. What in the world is their rationale?

 

Jeff Greenfield of Politico writes, "It is now clear that, consciously or not, Trump was delivering a warning to the Republican Party about what he was going to do to it. Two years into his administration, Trump has recognized that the institutional power of the Republican Party has all the effectiveness of the Maginot Line. He can ignore its leaders, scorn them, or just smash through them with no lasting political damage.

"That’s why, on the national emergency, Trump is about to win again. Republican officeholders like Maine’s Susan Collins will surely reach for the thesaurus to find appropriate adjectives (“troubling,” “disturbing,” “unsettling”). The naysayers will look over their shoulders at a party base that stands solidly behind the president. And when the rubble clears, Trump will still be standing, and another key element of the catechism—this time, limited constitutional government with a separation of powers that was outlined by James Madison and other framers—will be in ruins."

It is true prominent Republican leaders like Senators Lamar Alexander, Marco Rubio, Susan Collins, and Rand Paul have made their obligatory dissenting remarks, including "tsk, tsk," then they will quietly agree with Trump and to hell with our Constitution and that Separation of Powers thing everyone is talking about.

Trump's fans will simply ignore the issue and go on cheering Trump. They could care less about the Constitution and the terrible precedent that would be set if Trump is successful. Imagine President Ocassio-Cortez declaring a global warming or gun control national emergency. They will not think about that. Avoidance of issues is their main weapon.

Trump's fans and Republican leaders in Congress can't get it in their heads that Trump's wall and his immigration issues are a losing proposition. That is all Trump talked about at rallies leading up to the 2018 elections. The GOP lost 40 seats and control of the House. Despite a 26 to 9 advantage, they barely hung onto the Senate. They lost several state houses and state legislatures.

Go figure.

 

Hahaha! Stephen Miller is bitch slapping Chris Wallace on Fox right now! The open borders talking points fail!

 

Lol, that's perfect, just play it strait face.......It's like the right has never even implied circumventing the house is bad.
And remember; if your ignorant your not a hypocrite. God it's got to be good to be a righty.

 

Arizona Sherriffs…...even of the Leftist brand admitted to finding their dead bodies out in the desert. Of course the left isn't concerned about that. Knowing now the Demos can still get them to register to vote.

 

Oh yeah, I knew that was a lie. Just like the Peeps. You can keep your plan and you can keep your Doctor.

Hopefully Time Mag will put Trump's Lie as the Lie of the Year like BO the Peep. This way the leftness can move on.

Still Trump should now mention that Americans will pay for their own security and force the Leftness to live with that they paid for the wall......which will haunt them for eternity. Get them out yelling at the sky again.

 

Trump wins because he declared a national emergency. Not only will he get the 1.4 billion from the Democrats, but he has around 6-8 billion he can tap from this national emergency. Not only will he get the money when it finally reaches the USSC, he doesn't have to follow any of the rules the Democrats laid down to get the 1.4 billion. He's free to use it anyway he wants at the border.

 

Got to be kidding, it should sale through the USSC.

 

What drivel. Gather your thoughts and come back when you can make a coherent post.

 

Remember Obama telling us we would pay $2,500.00 less for our insurance? What did you do with all that money you didn't get?

 

And to hell with the Constitution, right.

Besides, you are dreaming. This will be held up in the courts for a couple years, and by then Trump will have moved on to creating another crisis.

IF Trump is successful, aren't you the least bit concerned about the precedent this will set? Picture a President Biden declaring a national emergency banning all pistols and assault weapons.

 

Trump's fans and Republican leaders in Congress can't get it in their heads that Trump's wall and his immigration issues are a losing proposition. That is all Trump talked about at rallies leading up to the 2018 elections. The GOP lost 40 seats and control of the House. Despite a 26 to 9 advantage, they barely hung onto the Senate. They lost several state houses and state legislatures.

 

Where in the Constitution does it say he cannot declare an emergency?

 

Either intentionally or inadvertently, Trump is acting like a Russian agent. Putin's dream is to weaken the American government and throw it into chaos.

In December, contrary to the wishes of his own party, Trump proudly shut down the government over his border wall. It was the longest shutdown in American history. Now he is challenging the Separation of Powers concept contained in our Constitution, once again in opposition to his own party along with the Democrats. Congress appropriates funds. Trump wants to challenge Congress and go around the legislative branch.

In other words, Trump, all on his own, is creating a Constitutional crisis. Putin has to be smiling. He could not be more pleased with what Trump is doing.

Either by accident or by design or through sheer stupidity, Trump is acting like an agent for the Russian Federation. I do not understand how Americans who represent his fan base can support him on this. What in the world is their rationale?

 

Yes, that is what Trump and his supporters keep saying because they need to avoid the real issue.

There is virtually no argument that the President has the power to declare a national emergency. That is not the point.

The point is, can the President declare a decades long problem a national emergency? If the President can't get his way -- funding from Congress -- can the President simply declare a national emergency to get that funding? Congress appropriates funds. Congress denied Trump his funds. Can the President challenge the Separation of Powers principle of our Constitution? Do even Republicans want Trump to establish a horrible precedent? Picture President Ocassio-Cortez declaring a national emergency and issuing an E.O. stating that all guns are illegal and banning the NRA.

Those are the issues.

 

What has that got to do with it. Just because a problem was ignored does not mean it is not a national emergency.

The democrats have already established a horrible precedent. They are refusing to work in the national interest purely because it is Trump. I have pointed this out repeatedly. The democrats said they wanted a wall until Trump said he wanted one. Now they say walls won't work. They have failed to show what new technology makes walls obsolete or how sensors and 21st Century technology will stop illegals.

 

Stop with the dramatics, Trump is using this to combat criminal activites. If some future Democrat president wants to invoke a national emergency to combat crime and enforce the law, go for it

 

Already have done the same

 

Typical conflation.

Trump seeks to enforce existing laws to combat criminal behavior. He's not trying to implement some ideological agenda or force a change on the people, or take over control American industry, and force a change on the American way of life

 

If the President can't get his way -- funding from Congress -- can the President simply declare a national emergency to get that funding? Congress appropriates funds. Congress denied Trump his funds. Can the President challenge the Separation of Powers principle of our Constitution? Do even Republicans want Trump to establish a horrible precedent? Picture President Ocassio-Cortez declaring a national emergency and issuing an E.O. stating that all guns are illegal and banning the NRA.

Trump's fans and Republican leaders in Congress can't get it in their heads that Trump's wall and his immigration issues are a losing proposition. That is all Trump talked about at rallies leading up to the 2018 elections. The GOP lost 40 seats and control of the House. Despite a 26 to 9 advantage, they barely hung onto the Senate. They lost several state houses and state legislatures.

Those are the issues. Deal with them. Good luck, no one else is.

 

The fact that the democrats are acting irresponsibly makes it a national emergency.