Trump would have won without the racism.

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  1. iAWESOME

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    As it looks like the DNC/Media/Wall Street are going to get their candidate in Hillary, Bernie supporters are left searching for a candidate they can rally behind. Unfortunately none exist. Most will flock to Hillary, but a lot of Bernie supporters aren't Democrats, such as myself. An anti-establishment candidate like Trump would have picked off some Bernie voters in the general. Also, consider that Trump would have garnered a large % of the black and Hispanic vote (more than the typical GOP candidate) in the general. Many people are simply fed off with business as usual and Trump would have brought in a ton of new, excited voters to the GOP.





    Until he started calling Mexicans rapists, mentioned banning Muslim entry into the United States, and called for his supporters to rough up black protesters. Rather you agree with him or not (G5), there simply aren't enough angry white people in the country to win a Presidential election. You know a larger base, and Trump won't have that. Hillary will be our next President folks. Its 1968, and she is Richard Nixon. Nobody likes her, but the alternatives are hilariously bad. If shes smart she'll nominate Bernie for VP.
     
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    you know his policies benefit blacks more than anyone else.
     
  3. Lesh

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    What you don't realize is that without that bigotry and racism...Trump would have gone nowhere.
     
  4. Pooblius

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    Muslims are not a race, and technically Mexicans are not either. A great many of them are Mestizos, but there are white Mexicans, and black ones too. Calling someone a rapist has nothing to do with racism, they have been know to do it, and all the bad things they do or do not do aside, they are ILLEGALS.
     
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    Only ONE LITTLE FLAW in your reasons: Trump is winning. :smile:

    But there is a lot of angry white people. A lot of angry Latinos and black people too. LOTS AND LOTS OF ANGER.

    The Democrats are running the 1980s for President. An angry old white women shouting "we got to go back there! We want more immigrants to take our jobs. We want to bring mass numbers of bigoted, sexist, violent, ignorant aind impoverished young Muslim men here also to put on welfare. We got to go back, people, back at least 3 decades!"
     
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    The racism myth rots folks brains.
     
  7. Pred

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    Specify the racism, please? What exactly makes him a racist? Wanting to punish illegals?
     
  8. doombug

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    When you are dealing with a myth it can be applied to anything. This is the main appeal of such a fantasy world.
     
  9. bwk

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    Trump has a lot more monsters in the closet besides racism. The man has already been handed a summary judgment for racketeering with Trump university for stealing 40 million dollars from thousands of students for a university that never existed. That alone should be enough for anyone to back away from Trump. Even if there wasn't racism in the picture; http://on.msnbc.com/1ppNJWI
     
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    Muslim and illegal immigrant is not a race.

    There are a lot of Bernie supporters that aren't uber-politically correct, and Trump will certainly pick off a lot. I think the faux racism attacks at Trump by the media won't phase him that much in the long run.

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    You keep dreaming.

    Anything that could hurt Trump would have already been used by the desperate establishment, and the hateful media.

    But, sooo much on Hillary. Where does Trump begin? :lol:
     
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    1) He was referring to illegal Mexicans crossing over that are rapists. Though if you want to go further it meant all illegals because ANYONE can cross the border without impediment. You know the cartels and other illicit organizations that deal in human trafficking. With the statistic being 1/3 - 1/5 women that attempt to cross illegally end up sexually assaulted.
    2) Islam isn't a race, it's a religion. Also he called for banning Muslims from entering the US from locations that are hot beds of radical ideologies. He also wants to vet these people before they arrive far more. This is in large part because ISIS is stealing identification and traveling with the migrants which has been reported.
    3) Rough up black protestors? Give the exact wording rather your subtext bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Provide evidence he even specified "black protestors" to be "roughed up" as you.
    4) I also don't doubt Bernie Sanders will endorse Clinton because he is weak. If he ends up getting the VP pick I'd laugh for days... Mr "Anti-Establishment" working underneath one of the corrupt so he too can have power and wealth from it. All the Bern Victims donating money to him I feel sorry for them.
     
  12. perotista

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    I tend to agree. I didn't see anything wrong with Trump stating he would build the wall. The illegals are here because they have broken our immigration laws, they are in fact, criminals. But for a very long time it seems they have been treated like privileged citizens by this administration. Always trying to give them an advantage over our natural born and naturalized citizens.

    But you are absolutely correct, Trump carried it way too far. Past the the common sense test. The same with his wanting to ban all Muslims. I viewed nothing wrong in not allowing Syrian Refugees into this country. Especially since ISIS itself was quoted as saying they would use the refugees to infiltrate their fighters into Europe and the U. S.

    But all Muslims? Give me a break. Some of our closest military allies are Muslim countries. Some of our economic and trading partners are Muslim nations. Perhaps if Trump had just stated he intends to stop illegal immigration, he will refuse just the Syrian Muslim refugees due to their being security hazards, perhaps and maybe.

    I don't know if all this stuff Trump has been saying is just political rhetoric to win the nomination or if he really believes it. So much stuff any candidates says during an election cycle, a campaign is nothing but hyperbole nonsense. Much like Hillary Clinton criticizing Wall Street and then accpeting their millions for her campaign and the Clinton Foundation.

    You may be right about Trump. I may add that if Trump had used a bit of common sense and didn't go too far, he might have sown up the nomination by now. He might have looked as a serious challenger to Hillary come November. He sure doesn't look like one to this guy. Shades of 1964 all over again are starting to poke their heads out of the clouds.
     
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    This never happened. I have only seen him indicate that "some" are, specifically some "illegal immigrants". Any test that you use to label Trump as a racist must show where Trump has claimed one race is superior to another, and must include the race as a whole. If you think that Trump is racist towards Mexicans, you need to apply the same test to Mexican "immigrants" as you would to Mexican "illegal immigrants", otherwise you would be calling immigrants a race, which they are not.
     
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    Not a single leftie can point out a bit of racism from Trump, but that won't stop them from lying.
     
  15. bwk

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    "Dreaming"? That's a good one. The "dream" as we speak, is a reality. He already has a summary judgment against him for fraud. If he settles out of court, which he said he does not do, even though he lied about that, the court case will bury him, and the evidence will be there for all to see this summer.
     
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    If he settles out of court the minor matter is done with.

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    In the meantime, Hillary is being investigated by the FBI, and one of her staffers now has immunity to testify against her.
     
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    It's not a minor matter. It's a fraud case that will happen in federal court. He said he doesn't settle out of court, remember? Racketeering can get you twenty to life. The crime he committed was a textbook case for racketeering.

    The man stole $40 million dollars. This is serious stuff.

    And your pitiful off topic Hillary comment, what a joke.
     
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    Do you really think if this was anything, Trump wouldn't settle out of court.

    "You know, I'm about ready to be elected president, but I think I'll take my chance on this court case just for laughs"

    He knows what he's doing. :)
     
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    His health care program would cost less, therefore, black people beaten and dragged out of his rallies by his supporters could get patched up at a discounted rate.
     
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    Dude, do you not know what racketeering is? If he doesn't settle out of court, he could be going to jail. And he should be going to jail anyway for stealing $40 million dollars.

    The AG has all the evidence he needs. He already said it. This is a slam dunk case. His case against Trump is over, by means of a summary judgment in appellate court. That judge has already ruled in favor of the AG.

    Telling me Trump knows what he is doing is telling me nothing. The man got caught for theft. Period! And this is your candidate for president. :roflol: (*)(*)(*)(*), you all can pick em can't you?
     
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    Yes i agree. He's using the violent racism to radicalize his base. The problem is, they're still very much a minority and trump's brand of hate-mongering gets boring after a while. He's extremely repetitive. We know..we know...he's gonna "make a deal." "Make America White Again" really should be his campaign slogan.

    I think what I like best about Hillary is how much trump supporters hate her....they're gonna go nuts when she wins. It will be wayyyy better than Obama won. The crying and freaking out will be AWESOME!!!

    However, I wish I could be voting for Sanders..he's just a really good guy and I've always had great admiration for him and his politics.
     
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    You're living in a fantasy.

    And, your candidate is being investigated by the FBI as we speak, for compromising high level top secret information. Id' be pretty worried about that if I were you.
     
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    This angry clown show is good for a laugh, but is there ever anything else on this channel? :lol:


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    Banning muslims wasn't racist. He said until they could figure out what was going on, which was correct.

    Secondly tell the forum...do muslims let non muslims into mecca?

    Can you please post the exact quote where Trump said to rough up black protesters? And the quote where he said "Mexicans" are rapists.
     
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    Making America Great is not a policy it's a grand and noble objective or dream but not a policy.
     

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