Trump's attorney cuts through the B.S. and explains their strategy: just give the elections to Trump

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  1. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I did read what you posted and you posted that you're ok with 4 more years of this insanity, because to you, the alternative is worse. I'm sorry but you feel you may not be in the same "category" but for me you are and that is completely alien and intellectually insulting to me. You may be a nice guy and I'm sure many Trump supporters are nice people, I just can't wrap my head around this kind of mentality. The guy is a racist, xenophobe, misogynist, pathological narcissist, pathological liar, completely psychotic and more and uses his supporters as tools for his personal gain. He would throw them all under the bus in a nanosecond if it benefits him. And he has endangered them all by openly exposing them to a potentially lethal virus and lying about its dangers and even knowingly lying about how dangerous it is. He has also done the same with the majority of his own political picks whom he first praised. It just doesn't make any sense to support and defend such an abomination. 250k dead on his watch and counting and countless permanently injured. The economy a complete hopeless disaster and irrecoverable for tens of millions. How in the world is that ok for 4 more years?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If that was all you found, you did not do a very good job of researching.
     
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    No? What kind of better job did I need to do? Did you not post this about Trump?:

    Was there something I missed?
     
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    You put me in a category, most of which does not fit me. But I will summarize.

    I did not vote for Trump in 2016. I did not believe either Trump or Hilary deserved my vote. I did vote for him in 2020 given the alternative.

    I do not like Trumps tweets or his attitude towards much of the population.

    I do not like the way he handed the Covic-19 pandemic.

    I like what he has done for the military. Half or less of the military was not combat ready by the end of Obama's term. Most of that was the inability to repair and replace equipment because of lack of funds. Trump turned that around.

    I like what he is trying to do at the border to stop illegal immigration, including the fence.

    I like what he has done with the economy. The tax cut and easing regulations to allow the economy to prosper.

    Generally I like his decisions. I do not like the way he treats people.

    I have seen no evidence that any democrat would have handled Covic-19 any better in spite of Biden's claims that he had a plan in March.

    I don't believe that Biden will last a term. He has mental problems. Harris will be a disaster. She believes the government is the solution to the US 's problems. I consider the government much of the reason for the US's problems. I don't like either Biden's or Harris's attitude towards guns.

    I am not concerned about Trump becoming a dictator. There are too many people like me who would oppose it. I am a retired US Air Force Vietnam veteran. I swore to uphold the Constitution. The president was not mentioned in that oath.
     
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    That's because he is a friggin moron and his second, if left to talk to much, would scare even the most senseless Democrats..
     
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    I think you're coming to the same simplistic and illogical conclusion that Trump does: Comparison of crowd size is not an indicator of overall support. I would have crawled through a burning building to vote against Trump, but there's no way I would have gone to a Biden rally. There are *millions* of us.
     
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    For four years we left leaning folks have been dealing with comments about being 'butt hurt' because of Hillary's loss. Even those of us who could not stand the thought of a Prez Hillary Clinton were told that our complaints of Trump were all about whining, being bad losers. Now, those same people are exhibiting the attitude about which we were criticized.
     
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    The millions who voted style over substance; it's how democracies fail, and tyranny reigns.
     
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    To be honest I do not know what to believe. I am a skeptic. I do not believe much without proof. I do believe we need to let this play out in court. I would like to see all the proof for myself.
     
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    Want to make sure I understand you here. Are you saying that a vote for Biden is a vote for tyranny?
     
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    Biden is just the trojan horse of tyranny. It's what crawls out of that horse that will tyrannize you.
     
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    I'm amazed you can say that within the context of Trump. I'll immediately concede that I don't like everything that comes with Biden, but I would have voted for a day old bran muffin surrounded by scientists waaaaay before I'd ever consider voting for Donald Trump. IMO Biden's threat is a creeping overreach. An incremental, hardly perceptible ooze. Trump on the other hand, has no interest in even pretending to respect precedent or decorum. Somehow GOP leadership has been seduced by his momentum; it's as if they *never* want another president or election. It's as if they refuse to admit that there isn't a democrat minitrump suckling a teet today to build his dictatorship tomorrow.
     
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    An incremental hardly perceptible ooze of creeping overreach is how tyranny blossoms, mandate by mandate, until you can't even have a thanksgiving dinner in your own home, and it's voters like you who are imposing it upon us.
     
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    I get it now. "Tyranny" is Trumpcode for coronavirus.

    The "perceptible ooze of creeping overreach" would be Trump, except he hasn't done anything. Just perceptible ooze. Creepy ooze.

    It's that ooze that has allowed the corona...uh...tyranny to blossom.
     
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    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    That's one of the most imperceptible and creepiest posts I've ever read, and it doesn't surprise me at all that it oozed from you.
     
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    Lol. Not bad.

    I got nothing. But surely you agree Trump is the Swamp King.
     
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    So would the courts. But Trump's attorneys won't show any.,
     
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    No, an incremental hardly perceptible ooze of creeping overreach is how *government* works. It's predictable and can be checked and balanced as long as it doesn't come in a flood. Which is precisely why millions of people are more comfortable with Biden than Trump.

    And not to be obtuse, but NO ONE is stopping you from having Thanksgiving dinner in your own home. Let's keep this **** in perspective: Freedom and Liberty. They always require people to take responsibility and sacrifice a little bit. NO ONE has ever been asked to do less. Wear a mask, wash your hands, make a shopping list, watch the Tiger King. Jesus Christ you guys. This isn't hard. We ALL want it to end. Showing up as Meal Team Six at the statehouse to demand we drag the pandemic out is the wrong way to do this. Keep in mind, the people who will spend an entire weekend farting in a ghillie suit covered in deer piss "can't breathe" through a porous mask? Really?
     
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    Almost entirely because it started at the lowest point it had been at since Reagan left office, and QE completely disconnect the stock market from the rest of the economy. No e of which had anything to do with Obama or his increasingly Republican congress after 2010.
     
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    My vote for Post of the Year.
     
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    I think if we look down thru history the Democrat party has certainly been the party of minority oppression! Starting with slavery and then later ghettos, welfare, dependency and subsidies from oppressive policies and the lack of opportunity and motivation the DNC have cultured them to except without question..

    Why do you think the DNC loudest message's are "FREE" and the "Republicans are going to take what you have away" ;)
     
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    Any time you can be cited for having to many people in your home FOR ANY REASON that's oppressive, interesting how compliant some folk/Americans are by simple fear mongering and toothless threats from piss ant politicians :)
     
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    Well if you don't conform to wearing a mask, in many places you are turned away from/segregate from others/basic needs even if you are healthy, that's a start ;)
     
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    I tried coming to work without pants. I was turned away. Tyranny I'm tellin ya.

    Uh...wut?
     
  25. Daniel Light

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    I remember my dad telling me about how the country pulled together to fight the enemy during WWII. There was rationing. There were black-out rules.
    People were willing to endure some discomfort and restrictions to defeat a common enemy ... now it's so sad to see
    a number of "Americans" who can't even be asked to take some basic health measures to defeat a common enemy.

    What's going to happen when a more deadly pandemic breaks out? If this had been an Ebola-like virus, would we still be claiming "freedom" was
    more important than survival? And for 250,000 Americans, this virus has been every bit as deadly as Ebola.
     
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