Trump's crazy designation of Antifa as terrorist organization

AntiFa is not at all similar to ISIS or Al Queda.
Calling common criminal terrorists is a mistake IMO.

Routine law enforcement could easily restrain the excesses of AntiFa.
Focus should be on governments' decisions not to enforce law during these hothouse riots.

 

Of course we agree that looting is unlawful ... why would you think otherwise ?

The drone program - innocents were often killed. Intentionally arming Al Qaeda with tens of thousands of tons of sophisticated military equipment was sponsoring terrorism - an action which in this case led to the death of over 500,000 - genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity.

 

innocents are often killed in war as a collateral expense, but aren't necessary the target.

We didn't arm Al Q...we did arm the Mujahideen and others, during the Russian-Afghan war...where the Soviets were invading the country. That's not terrorism...that supporting a country that was being invaded by a foreign power.

 

Violent crime is never justified unless it is associated with revolution, insurrection or civil war.
These riots do not amount to any of those things and they are certainly not terrorist acts.

Criminal civil unrest that could easily be subdued without the use of deadly force has more in common with disturbing the peace than terrorism.

 

I think that traditionally speaking . . . it's not supposed to be wrong when leftist terrorists do it. It's sort of like when Barack Obama labelled the Fort Hood massacre by an Islamic terrorist an act of . . . workplace violence.

 

Terrorism is when violence and intimidation is used to sway thoughts and opinions, or to make people do something and/or stop doing something.

 

Collateral damage is terrorism - it is "intentional killing of innocents" In war - sometimes this can not be avoided - but let's not sugar coat it by using terms such as "collateral damage"

I am not talking about the Mujahaideen - and not talking about fighting an invading force. Obama led a massive coalition of nations to arm - support - and supply a radical Islamist proxy army waging holy Jihad in Syria. This army was led by Al Qaeda and its various offspring.

We were also allied with Al Qaeda in Yemen - an action for which we are under investigation for complicity in war crimes.

 

The USG did apparently arm ISIS and Al Queda in Syria during the Obama administration.

“The White House decided to support armed rebels in Syria despite intelligence warnings forecasting the rise of the Islamic State.

In Al Jazeera’s latest Head to Head episode, former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Michael Flynn confirms to Mehdi Hasan that not only had he studied the DIA memo predicting the West’s backing of an Islamic State in Syria when it came across his desk in 2012, but even asserts that the White House’s sponsoring of radical jihadists (that would emerge as ISIL and Nusra) against the Syrian regime was “a willful decision.” [Lengthy discussion of the DIA memo begins at the 8:50 mark.]”
FOREIGN POLICY JOURNAL, Rise of Islamic State was ‘a willful decision’: Former DIA Chief Michael Flynn, By Brad Hoff | Aug 7, 2015 | Middle East, News & Analysis, US | 39 |.
https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...lful-decision-former-dia-chief-michael-flynn/

IOW, Flynn really is the man who knows too much.

 

please enlighten us give us another defintion of terrorism that in any way is different then what i provided

also in what world do you live in which rioting looting and arson is lawful? what country state city town that doesn't have laws against any of that?

rioting looting and arson is universally illegal they arent made up laws so to squash dissent like you are implying

 

innocents are often killed in war as a collateral expense, but aren't necessary the target.

We didn't arm Al Q...we did arm the Mujahideen and others, during the Russian-Afghan war...where the Soviets were inv

 

Not according to your defination...they aren't targeted.

I was not aware of Obama doing that.

 

That is a very broad brush definition. Police would fit into your definition as would numerous other Gov't institutions.

This is why my definition includes the intentional killing of innocents. While the above should be criminal - I don't think it rises to the level of terrorism.

 

So maybe there is an argument the Obama admin was a terrorist organization

 

when the motive behind a criminal act of violence and intimidation against civilians in the pursuit of political aims its terrorism and the ones or groups that commit those acts of terrorism are terrorist
and your attempt to spin it any other way just makes you look foolish

 

Not sure what you mean "not targeted" What killing that is not targeted are you referring to.

Yeah .. hence the "Stop Arming Terrorist Act"

https://gabbard.house.gov/news/StopArmingTerrorists

The above is the "Sugar Coated" version - testimony before Congress.

 

This is terrorism:

 

Riot Stopping 101.

1. Read the riot act, and wait 4 minutes.
2. Spray remaining rioters with unique indelible marker dye.
3. Arrest and charge as many rioters as can be caught in the act.
4. Arrest more as they are eventually observed with the dye on them.
5. Apply the law to those convicted.

No more violent riots.

Will not work on terrorists because terrorists are not common criminals.

 

Historical Fact mate - Which is why we need to be careful with our definition of "Terrorism" - so we do not implicate near everyone.

Not that by strengthening the definition would get Obama off the hook ... this was a truly nasty deed - complete with war crimes, genocide, and crimes against humanity.

 

No, it is just common criminals and anarchists operating under government/police protection.

 

collaterally damage in a war. It wouldn't be collateral if it was targeted.

I support her bill

 

"Antifa" is a propaganda term to avoid saying the word "fascist." That word just kills the White House so this euphemism was made common by the our fascist media. On the other hand, the Southern racist fascists change their name to "Alt-right." The political left unquestioningly embraced both terms.

 

This is terrorism:

Video: Dallas Store Owner Severely Attacked by Crowd of Looters
https://ktrh.iheart.com/content/202...-owner-severely-attacked-by-crowd-of-looters/

Shocking moment Dallas rioters hurl ROCKS at 'business owner who tried to defend his store with a sword' then brutally beat him unconscious during night of violence in the city
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...OCKS-store-owner-tried-defend-shop-sword.html

Upstate New York store owners attacked while protecting business from looters
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rochester-couple-attacked-george-floyd-protests

Immigrant business owners, hit hard by vandalism and looting, want justice for Floyd
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/...-vandalism-and-looting-want-justice-for-floyd

 

Sure, but government always tends to instill some level of fear through the threat and actual use of deadly force. The USG's arming terrorists was either very stupid or pure evil.

 

Law and Order. Bone saw.

And if the White House wants law and order why is there a Russian whore in the White House?

 

A rather incoherent example of ad hominem nonsense. You can do better.