Trump's crazy designation of Antifa as terrorist organization

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Should Antifa be designated a terrorist organization

  1. Yes - the blood of many innocents is on the hands of ANTIFA

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  2. No - I can't recall too many deaths of innocents by ANTIFA

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's one example - there are numerous others - Patriot Act - (war on terror). The war on Drugs did the same.

    My claim is that much of the violence we are seeing today is the result of bad law/legislation.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Yeah it certainly isn't easy to make these decisions or act upon such unrest due to the legal complications. No doubt the details of the legality can get overwhelming.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Ooo wee doggy !!!!

    That is some story.
     
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    Kyklos Well-Known Member Donor

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    People don't understand. Language is a key tool and the US spends millions researching test audiences with different terms. Frank Luntz is a language analyst in analytic philosophy and does this propaganda research. The American government can literally kill people with simple language and be legally sanctioned. That's why the Law is a whore!

    The average adult American commits three felonies a day. Let's arrest their asses! Let's start in the White House.
     
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    But it's defined the opposite:

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/collateral damage

    Definition of collateral damage


    : injury inflicted on something other than an intended targetspecifically : civilian casualties of a military operation
     
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    Terrorism doesn't require killing, although AntiFA has seriously injured numerous people and is suspected or arguably involved in some deaths, such as the death of a cop in Oakland recently.

    Terrorism is simply trying to force people to do what you want through fear. Looting and burning buildings in support of a political goal is still terrorism, even if we want to pretend that they've never killed anyone.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not what Collateral Damage is. Collateral damage is where you know that civilians will be killed - but drop the bomb anyway.

    Claiming "yes but some bad guy was there - and he was the intended target" does not change the fact that the innocents are also targeted - and intentionally so.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Once again - this is a massively broad brush - basically labeling our Gov't and our Police as terrorists.
     
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    I don't understand why some OP always appeal to some terrorist law to arrest someone. I could arrest you standing on your own porch. I have done it in a person's living room. The average American commits three felonies a day.

    This fact shows have stupid the statement "arrest the protesters for terrorism" is.

    No police officer has to interrogate you; therefore, the police are not required to read anyone their rights "if they are not interrogated." Police are allowed in some states to shoot fleeing felons, but police are warned not to otherwise they will lose the law as an extra layer of immunity.

    The entire law has been engineered over the decades and millions of arrests to ****** you over if the police want to.

    I am sorry to tell you dear Americans--YOU HAVE NO ****ING RIGHTS! GET IT?

    Do you think cops just sit around all day drinking coffee? NO, they spend their time figuring out how to **** you over. Don't be an idiot.

    If you don't like it, quit your job at McDonalds and hire a $600 an hour lawyer and stop your bitching. Like get my bottle of lube and watch this snuff film and make American great again.

    Sgt. James Brown, 26, Survived Two Tours in Iraq Only to Die Begging for His Life in Texas Jail

     
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    I’m not a liberal.
    Wikipedia says you’re wrong
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)
    but if you can show me something that says Antifa has an actual structure and members, please post a link.
     
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    Antifa are nothing but anarchist rabblerousers looking for any excuse to shut down those they disagree with and/or commit violence and property damage in the name of whatever cause of the day is most convenient for them. People who dress up balaclavas and face masks carrying weapons are not there for a peaceful protest. They should be arrested on sight. The terrorist label is a bit much though, the young college kids and various social outcasts who make up that movement could only dream of being that level of threat to the government.
     
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    Antifa is another hate group spawned by the democrat party. Just like the KKK.
     
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    Fair enough - this however does not make them a terrorist group. These days - the KKK are Red not Blue in any case.
     
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    Yup - and we have the freedom in this nation to have such beliefs.

    What I don't like is using the black vs white "anarchist" characterization. There is much grey in between.

    The reason one needs a mask these days is because our Gov't targets such dissent - rightfully so in some cases - not so much in others.

    When you live in a nation where the police and Gov't act like terrorists - at least according to the definition 14 of the 16 voters in the poll have adopted - who is right and who is wrong becomes very blurry.
     
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    Neither group is red or blue. They just jump on any bandwagon. Antifa is a violent terrorist group.
     
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    She's Iranian, and she left 3 years ago.
     
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    The KKK is predominantly Red these days - Antifa is predominantly blue.
     
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    Now that ANTIFA has been designated a terrorist organization. The Democrat Marxist Governors and Mayors will declare their cities as sanctuary cities for Antifa

    The police will be ordered to bow to Antifa and let them run the streets while National Guard will enforce social distancing and mask wearing on all citizens except Looters, Antifa, and the usual drug addict street persons pooping in public.

    The blessed rioting mob lead by Antifa will continue the reparations long overdue, via burning down the stores and redistributing the contents to themselves, as directed by their imperial Nazi collaborator leader, George Soros
     
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    "justified". Please explain the justification for burning and looting of businesses, many of which were owned by minorities.
     
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    I did not claim that looting and burning of businesses owned by minorities was justified. A publicly traded corporation is a different story.
     
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    The KKK is practically nonexistent these days except in the fevered imagination of the SPLC. Antifa, on the other hand is active in burning, looting, beating in most of the blue controlled jurisdictions.

    BTW, isn't it odd that far leftist dominated jurisdictions like Seattle, Portland, Baltimore, SF, LA, etc. - you know, the places where racism and discrimination don't exist because of the dominance of socialist political parties, are the places where the violence and thuggery of Antifa are most prevalent.
     
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    I have no idea how many members of the KKK exist today - but they are certainly not "non - existent"

    Regardless - the poster I was responding to was inferring that the KKK was predominantly Blue - and this is simply not the case. I agree that Antifa is mostly blue.

    Just trying to keep the facts straight.
     
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    Why? You know Target was in the forefront of letting men into little girls restrooms, booting out the Salvation Army, and other favorite leftist causes. And yet Target was vandalized and looted by the "protesters". Obviously those TVs, clothes, drugs, shoes needed to be liberated from the racist white supremecists in the boardroom of a Corporation that has been overtly on board with various "diversity" narratives. And don't forget the racist liquor and jewelry stores that needed punishment for their racism.
     
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    The KKK is today a boogeyman of the racist "diversity" pimps. They drag it out whenever they need more donations to their bank accounts in the Caymans. I have seen videos and reports of hundreds, if not thousands of incidents of Antifa beating and vandalizing and burning in their blue enclaves in the last few years. I live near Dallas where a BLM activist assassinated 5 Dallas Police officers in 2016 - officers who gave their lives protecting a march of BLM protestors who hated them. We have all seen the black clad Antifa actions that happen with dizzying frequency but I don't remember any similar KKK burnings, beatings, smashings, on TV or in the news. The fear of KKK violence always seems to be descending on America yet it actually materializes in Antifa activities.
     
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    The motivations for the Left's objections are rather obvious

    American Burning Redux: Why?

    “The playbook has been the same one they ran in Ferguson: use the cover of black protestors to bring far-left agitators out to sow disorder and chaos through rioting, looting and arson, while the response to the disorder in (mostly) Democrat Party run locales is ineffectual. That playbook appears to be aimed at radicalizing black voters so they continued to show up at polls for Democrats without Obama at the top of the ticket.”​
     

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