Trump's crazy designation of Antifa as terrorist organization

Antifa causes damage (human and property) for a political purpose.

Sounds like terrorism to me.

 

This is great news, if someone is arrested and affiliated with this Criminal Terrorist group, EXECUTE! them and send a message. I've seen videos of these cowards in action, they rely on numbers and when you get one separated from their group, they cry like little bitches and plead for mercy. Just another example of intolerant Extremist Liberals who lash out violently if you don't think as they do.

 

Agree that allowing a POTUS to name any group or any movement he does not like can be dangerous. ANTIFA is not a good movement but neither the KKK.

 

Execution is a little extreme, lol, but they absolutely definitely should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and if this allows further prosecution ---- great. At the very least they should be facing arrest, fines, and jail time if possible. Throw the book at them. Maximum sentences for everything. They need to learn there are consequences for their actions. What they are doing is not acceptable, and we need to quit turning a blind eye. It's shameful how these [liberal, generally] mayors prefer to just "let them vent". Hell no. Arrest them, fine them, jail them, throw the book at them.

 

How many IEDs has AntiFa set off? How many troops or police has AntiFa killed in deadly ambushes?
AntiFa exists because DP governors, mayors, and their judges, prosecutors and police support AntiFa.
Designating it a terrorist organization will not change that.

I suppose Trump can send the troops into these progressive havens, but I can't think of a very good reason for doing so.

Here is an idea: Order the US Marshalls Service to start deputizing and arming thousands of local citizens from the urban black American neighborhoods to immediately engage and stop all street violence instantly and restore the peace.

They apparently looted the Gucci store and others in Beverly Hills. Why should Trump interfere with that?

 

If they are antifa, no prison time but confiscation of their parents wealth to help pay the bills that they inflicted. The kids sentence should also include minimum wage jobs rebuilding what they burned down.

 

Then isn't every armed criminal a terrorist?

 

An organization that intimidates our citizens through use of violence and property destruction is legitimately terrorist. Which is why certain animal "liberation" groups and specific environmental entities are already labeled terrorist groups.

 

Yup - and this is a ridiculously broad definition in some ways - and extremely narrow in others.

"our citizens" ? so if it is some group doing actions in some other nation it is not "terrorism" ?

 

not to us. We'd call them rebels I guess. It's all a matter of perspective. I'm glad they are thinking about labeling Antifa as terrorists. About time.

 

Strawman. Terrorism is not limited to homicides.

 

They do?
Then there must be a leader to have representation. Who is the leader? Where do they organize?

 

Who is organizing the Antifa movements? Coordinating on where to take advantage?

 

social media post for one

 

It's really not that hard. You either relate with, support and have sympathy for the terroristic group and call them freedom fighters. Or you are disgusted and angered with the loss of life and property and intimidation and you call them scum. There is no middle ground because you cant have middle ground when we are talking about destruction of peoples lives.

Officially our government decides who is the enemy. And if you disagree and decide the government is the enemy then you've picked a side, you are now a freedom fighter in your eyes and a terrorist according to them.

Was the revolutionary colonial guerillas freedom fighters or terrorists? Depends on what agenda you support. The destruction of the United States of America? Or its demise?

It's all about the ideology...

 

Fair enough but be consistent ... using the definitions given so far - not only are Antia terrorists - but a whole lot of other groups - including the Pentagon. And thus - as per the OP - the word is rendered meaningless - different folks making up definitions as they go along.

Many are supporting this simply out of Trump love - and that is not good.

 

Learn what a strawman is - holy carp it is amazing that you have been here so long that you don't know what a straw man is.

If you don't like my definition of terrorism - there are plenty more to choose from - just read through some of the posts.

Which do you prefer ?

 

It has nothing to do with having sympathy for any group. You are making up stories about the way others perceive things - and pretending those stories are true.

This is about how we define terrorism - "Its really not that hard" - If you go through the OP - you will find different opinions.

Once you pick one though - "Be consistent" meaning - you call a spade a spade according to your definition.

You don't get to change the definition because some Gov't that you like happens to have all the qualities on your list. It is what it is .. it either meets the definition or it doesn't. Pretending otherwise is lying to yourself - and - well - and blatant hypocrisy.

 

By far the most ridiculous association.

 

You seriously can find no differences between Antifa and Al Qaeda - Interesting !?

As per the OP - what is your definition of terrorism ?

 

I know exactly what it is


noun: strawman

1. 1.
   an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

you made a CLASSIC one saying there is no terrorism because no one has shown you any deaths resulting. Perhaps you should learn what one is so you don't use one again.

Since when is that the measurement?

 

How about using illegal violence, destruction and and physical intimidation and threats to achieve your political goals.

 

In ww2 allies purposely bombed civilian German men women and children with purpose of striking fear, breaking spirit and causing terror. Was that terrorism? How is that different from Islamists killing 3000 people in New York?

The only difference is that one was the good fight and the other is evil. In my eyes anyway.

Pick a side and make sure it's the one you truly want to win.

 

So what was the strawman ? How did I misrepresent your position ? and/or what was your real argument.

K= Strawman - is when you misrepresent your opponents position.

If you think I am setting up a false dichotomy or something - that is something else - but it is not a strawman fallacy...

Or if you still want to persist .. then do tell us what the strawman fallacy was por favor.

 

You can find no differences between Al Qaeda and Antifa ? - I get there are similarities - but that is not the question here.

Do you seriously want to try and hold the position, that Al Qaeda and Antifa are in the same Arena?.

I would welcome the effort - but that one is going to be tough to defend.