Trump's Future Plans?? Bid in 2024?

Biden won the election in those states.All of the legally-recognized, state-appointed electors in those states cast their votes for Biden. Those electors gathered in state capitols and signed certificates of ascertainment along with state governors, cementing Biden’s win.Votes cast by uncertified electors would only come into play if courts attempted to throw out the officially-cast electoral votes, and courts across the nation have repeatedly affirmed the legitimacy of Biden’s win in those states.

 

Progressives plot 11th-hour Trump impeachment over Georgia call

https://www.axios.com/democrats-tru...all-5e99df33-ba33-4c25-982d-8494e53425f3.html

anything can happen in this bizarre situation.

Other democratic nations must be astounded.

 

It's not exactly the nature of your country as the nature of your system. This simply couldn't happen under the British/Commonwealth electoral procedure.

 

English it not, but your posts certainly are.

 

Like I said, its coming straight from the horse's mouth.

Crying media conspiracy every time you don't like something it weak. Trump does it all the time, and his apologists follow suit.

 

The "elections" in those States faulted (due to election fraud). The election for choosing the President has not occurred yet (it occurs tomorrow). Biden cannot win something that hasn't occurred yet.

Seven states have dueling electors at the moment. Only the State legislatures can choose electors.

Only the State legislatures can choose electors. Biden cannot win an election that hasn't taken place yet.

The courts have done no such thing, and there doesn't even have to be any court involvement. It is the State legislatures who choose electors for their State. They will need to clarify which electors are to be used in the seven States with dueling electors, or else they will have to abstain.

 

Words have meanings, dude.

 

Indeed they do, which is why I explained the matter to you, but it seems I have wasted my time.

Although US us a Republic, it is also a democracy. See, Republic is a form of government, while democracy is an ideology, which is why they are not mutually exclusive.

Definition of "full democracy": Full democracies are nations where civil liberties and fundamental political freedoms are not only respected but also reinforced by a political culture conducive to the thriving of democratic principles. These nations have a valid system of governmental checks and balances, an independent judiciary whose decisions are enforced, governments that function adequately, and diverse and independent media. These nations have only limited problems in democratic functioning.

I'd say were were a "full democracy" until Trump managed to downgrade us to the status "flawed democracy".

Flawed democracies are nations where elections are fair and free and basic civil liberties are honoured but may have issues (e.g. media freedom infringement and minor suppression of political opposition and critics). These nations have significant faults in other democratic aspects, including underdeveloped political culture, low levels of participation in politics, and issues in the functioning of governance

 

What do you call it when the vice president opens the envelope but doesn't like results so he chooses the winner?

 

Nations which reject democracy are known as "Authoritarian Regimes" or "Dictatorships". Trump is working hard to get US there, but I believe his plot will fail because his team is outnumbered by patriots who will defend the Constitution.

 

You didn't explain anything to anyone. You just kept claiming that the USA is a democracy even though it has never ever been a democracy. I have already told you that the Constitution refers to the USA as a republic and that the Pledge of Allegiance refers to our nation as a republic. There is a reason for that. That is because the USA is a republic, not a democracy. I have also already explained to you that the presence of democratic elections does not make a nation into a democracy.

Paradox. You are now arguing irrationally. It is not possible for the USA to simultaneously be two completely different things.

WRONG. They are both forms of government (two completely different forms of government).

A Republic is a form of government in which a nation is governed by a Constitution ("rule of law"). A Democracy, on the other hand, is a form of government in which a nation is governed by a majority of its populace ("mob rule"). These forms of government were created by ancient Rome and ancient Greece, respectively.

Wikipedia articles dismissed on sight. You cannot use Wikipedia as a source of anything with me. Wikipedia articles are too often incomplete, misleading, or just plain wrong. In this case, they are just plain wrong (as they are denying history and etymology).

 

All fifty states and D.C have certified their results, "dueling electors" have no legal significance because they were not certified by state governments.

 

No they haven't.

 

Yes. They have. Prepare to have reality bite you in the butt tomorrow.

 

No. Democracy is more than just a form of government. But then again, I already explained it. You can have democracy within a 3 member household.

Feel free to believe anything you want. I wont waste any more time bickering over word games.

 

Yes,they have!
Claiming otherwise is a suspension of reality.

 

No, they haven't. The elector choosing and vote is tomorrow, so we will see. Biden might win (successful coup), Trump might win (in accordance with the citizenry's recommendation to their State Legislatures, after removing the election fraud efforts of the Left), or it might still remain indeterminate (where State Legislatures will need to clarify to Pence and the feds which of the dueling elector slates should be counted).

 

No, it isn't. Democracy is just a form of government.

Indeed, and that could very well be how a household chooses to govern over its residents. That is not how the USA governs over its citizens, however... The USA is governed by a Constitution. The USA is a Federated Republic, NOT a Democracy.

No word games are being played. You are simply choosing to deny history and etymology.

 

Sigh. You are in for a big surprise.

Pence has the power to open envelopes and count the votes. The only votes sent by the officials in each state.

Counter votes sent by non elected electors will be ignored.

Pence has NO power here. He's the score keeper. Score keepers don't decide ****.

 

The only suspence surrounding Pence is the question of whether or not he's going to bring his fly. He's still carrying the smell that attracted it in the first place.

 

So, Pence just informed Trump that he met with the Congressional parliamentarian, who informed him that his only option is to open the official envelopes and tally them. Trump kicked him out of the WH.

Cheers.

 

Trump administration seeks to scale back decades-old protections against discrimination on basis of race, color or national origin

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educ...Q.-TOAxWtJ69oB1QRDM-MTA5vI3ZN4LeButONLfBfObpI

More destructive behavior........very Trumpian. and rather scary.as he is going backwards into an uglier era.

 

It will last 14 days. No worries.

 

You are a delightful optimist.

 

The analogy I like is that Pence get to open the envelope as if it were Oscar night .

...and the winner is:...Democracy and ..Former vice prez J. Biden.




(the only one that tried a coup is Trump )........and he will fail at that too.