Trump's immigration push a window into his follow through

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  1. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...into-his-follow-through/ar-AAz5Zv2?li=BBnb7Kz

    From the link:

    WASHINGTON — Maybe it's not so easy after all. President Donald Trump's struggles to push immigration legislation through Congress and his about-face on breaking up immigrant families are putting a spotlight on his competence in carrying out his policies.

    The fallout from Trump's handling of the separation of immigrant children from their families, which led to a sharp reversal from the president, has been reminiscent of the chaos sparked when Trump opened his administration by imposing a travel ban on immigrants entering from majority Muslim countries.

    Taken together, the events demonstrate how little Trump appears to have learned or adjusted his approach after that first rocky encounter with governing. From issue to issue, from immigration to health care to trade and more, Trump's pattern has been to outline a plan with scant concern or preparation for its immediate impact or consequences, and to make changes on the fly with the same lack of planning.

    The result has often gone far beyond bureaucratic confusion, and has, at times, inflicted painful and unexpected consequences on people's lives.

    "It's not something that appreciates these young children and was certainly done in a 'ready, fire, aim' way, obviously," said Republican Sen. Bob Corker of Tennessee, describing the administration's immigration policy. "There was no preparation for it."

    Trump implemented a major new policy this spring with no apparent plan or new resources to handle the influx of people who would be detained and prosecuted as a result. When a public outcry ensued, the administration could not answer basic questions about it. Trump then changed the policy, leaving officials within the administration confused about how to enact the changes. It took several days for the government to say how it planned to reunite families and where the children were located.

    Trump's struggles on immigration follow his failure last year to repeal the so-called Obamacare law, a central tenet of GOP orthodoxy since President Barack Obama signed it into law in 2010, and the president's uneven implementation of his travel ban, which will be the subject of a Supreme Court ruling this week. New tariffs have strained relationships with European and North American allies and his Middle East peace plan is still under development amid a standoff with the Palestinians after he said the decades-old problem wouldn't be hard to solve.

    Trump has often mused since the 2016 presidential campaign that it would be "so easy" to pass a sweeping immigration law and construct a "big, beautiful" border wall, paid for by Mexico. Earlier this week, he tweeted that his Democratic leadership adversaries in Congress, Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York and Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, would be "forced to do a real deal, so easy, that solves this long time problem."

    But the upcoming week could offer fresh evidence that the reality of governing is much more challenging.

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    "Trump has often mused since the 2016 presidential campaign that it would be "so easy" to pass a sweeping immigration law and construct a "big, beautiful" border wall, paid for by Mexico."

    Has he? I haven't seen any immigration laws.
     
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    He's got over 6 years left...patience.
     
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    Well, he's got a majority in the House and the Senate. Why can't he get anything beyond tax cuts and Executive Orders (something he claimed to oppose) accomplished?

    Hint: He's an incompetent, ignorant and lazy--a very poor combination.
     
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    You seem to be having trouble counting. 2020 is only 2 years away, not 6
     
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    He does not have 60 votes in the Senate..

    Your hint describes yourself as you cant follow simple thread creation rules
     
  7. Nemesis

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    You mean that he's incapable of of getting even nine Democrats to vote in favor of something that he'd sign?

    As I opined--he's incompetent.

    There are rules? Oh my!
     
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    Led by Chucky Schumer says it all..

    Yes there are forum rules imagine that
     
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    But...... But...... Trump was supposed to be a Deal Maker. At least Trump and his staff keeps saying that.

    Most of Trumps " ideas " are vague and no follow up with sources of Funding.

    Anyone can tear down......... it takes a True Leader to build.
     
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    What about the other 47 Democrats?

    And which rules am I "violating" by having an opinion about Trump's extreme incompetence? I imagine that the mods will let me know if I'm violating rules, so save your breath.
     
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    Well stated.

    Trump is a blundering fool. Not a leader. Not a "deal-maker".
     
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    Tell me your 2020 predictions ... i love lefty predictions ....
     
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    You want a lofty prediction?

    Biden/Booker easily defeats Pence/McCarthy.
     
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    People who endanger their kids should have them taken away.

    The collective is trying to make it so if you come here illegally and bring a kid, you get a free pass and get to stay.
     
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    I love collectivist predictions because they are all based on fantasy and emotion. They still think trump is going to get impeached.

    Remember all the predictions that trump was going to be impeached by now?
     
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    You are confused. You're describing your average collectivist drone.
     
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    :roflol:Biden

    Creepy uncle Joe. Fits right in at the DNC.
     
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    You need two interested parties to make a deal.
     
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    We have one party who rather see the country burn then trump look good.
     
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    Thats correct. Lefties have no problem letting a portion of underage girls get raped along the way, their underwear being hung on rape trees as a trophy. They only care that enough get through to california to vote...only problem is...they havent figured out how to distribute them to enough states to swing the electoral yet, but give them time thats what the sanctuary city crap is all about. Thats why its important to call people who you hear supporting this...traitors. Thats exactly what they are, filthy traitors.
     
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    Anyone that wanted to could come here from any country prior to 1924.The vast majority of your ancestors if you are third or fourth generation came here with no papers.The ships captain that brought them here vouched for them.
     
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    Globalist, by definition, cannot be patriotic Americans. If you live in America and vote for globalist democrats, its like supporting someone who beats you up. Thinking if you vote for them will make them like you, is never going to work.
     
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    But they came in the front door and got checked and regulated. If they had a plague or something like that they got sent back.
     
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    Utter bunk, unsupported by science, fact or reason.

    What you call "globalism", and what educated people call "free trade", has made us the most wealthy nation on Earth.
     
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    You think? Cause we are ecstatic about his accomplishments, he has exceeded our wildest hopes and expectations.

    -Obama's legacy - wiped out
    -ISIS - wiped out
    -TPP - wiped out
    -Paris accord - wiped out
    -NK's nuclear threat - decreased by an order of magnitude
    -Obama care, in the process of being wiped out.
    -Economy - booming
    -Stock market - skyrocketing
    -Incomes growing.
    -Unemployment - N/A
    -Illegal immigration - decreased
    ...
    Some incompetence, huh? :D
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