Trump's impeachment polling is historically unprecedented

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  1. MrTLegal

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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/04/politics/trump-impeachment-polling/index.html

    The CNN average of the polls notes that support for the impeachment inquiry (not necessarily the same as support for impeachment) currently stands at 51% in favor, 44% against.

    In October of 1998, the percentage of Americans who wanted to impeach Clinton was 31% (and 63% against). At no point did support for impeachment of Clinton ever reach a plurality. By contrast, here is the most up to date 538 tracker on support for Trump impeachment.

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    As you can see, we are already at the point where a plurality support the actual impeachment of Trump. And in fact, the 46% in favor is higher than the percentage who supported the impeachment of Nixon weeks after the impeachment inquiry was announced.

    I have been asking this question for a while and now we have some more data. So for those who thought the impeachment of Clinton was a bad (or good) thing for Republicans, we now have some more data to reveal why supporting impeachment of Trump will be much, much less damaging than the "common sense" understanding of the impact from Clinton's impeachment.
     
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    The next question will be to review how the support for impeachment of Clinton moved over time. I am confident that support never reached the same level that Trump is already experiencing, but it would be interesting to see whether the significant uptick experienced by Trump was also seen in the Clinton impeachment.
     
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    More wishy bone predictions.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    If impeachment were a matter of popular vote, that all might be relevant, but it's not, so it isn't.

    Trump is raking in megabucks in campaign funds thanks to the Dem's impeachment clownery. THAT is relevant.
     
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    Politicians make decisions based on polling data. So yea, impeachment is very much a matter of popular vote.

    Now, as for Trump raking in money because of his lies regarding impeachment, I would like to point out that Trump is one of the first Presidents to be able to campaign after Citizens United and he is the first President able to campaign while the Federal Election Commission is currently unable to perform any investigations into Campaign Finance violations.
     
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    What prediction is being made by this post?
     
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    Im sorry, it's mishmash wishy bone polling.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Fake news.
     
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    ...and that's the problem.
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny how the anti-trump polling is always wrong/fake/whatever, yet the pro-trump polls are always spot on/great/not bad at all
     
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    People are voting with their wallets.

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    Are you suggesting that Trump is violating campaign finance laws?

    Citations please.
     
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    I am saying that Trump is raising a lot of money at the same time that the FEC is unable to perform any investigations into Campaign Finance violations. Those violations could be done by Super PACs allied with Trump, individual donors, the Trump campaign, etc.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fec-left-toothless-empty-seats-heading-2020/story?id=65215840

    Part of that inability to investigate also means that any allegations of violations are not going to be made public.
     
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    Over 50% impeachment and that’s before we saw the text messages.
     
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    ...what are you trying to say?
     
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    Stop repeating the 2016 Politifact Lie of the Year.
     
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    Democracy is a problem for you.
     
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    Do you have any evidence whatsoever to back up your suspicions of campaign finance violations, or are you sticking to the usual Dem strategy of throwing out groundless accusations?
     
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    Are you trying to convince us or yourselves?

    We are happy with trump because he’s the only thing saving us from you
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    None of this surprises me. These days the media hates on Trump so badly that a person can't turn on day time shows, comedy shows and most news channels without being bombarded by hate. The media has whipped their sheep up to the point that people cried when Trump won the election and followed that up with a day of screaming. Making matters worse, the media pumps out fake news or exaggerates any negatives about Trump and the low info types believe it to be true. If you doubt me on this, then just look at this board and see how many people still believe in the Russia hoax, a pee tape and ALWAYS omit the part where Trump says 'they let you.'
     
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    Maybe a text message where they confirm aid and a WH meeting are contingent on election interference?
     
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    I have given you my evidence.

    Trump is raising large amounts of money at the same time that the agency tasked with investigating allegations of campaign finance violations is toothless and, more damaging, that agency is toothless because of steps actively taken by Republicans.
     
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    Citations please.
     
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    Yes! We are not a democracy. We are a republic.

    Try to keep up.
     
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    Alrighty then.

    All of the Democratic candidates are guilty of campaign finance violations, but we don't know about it, because the FEC is unable to perform any investigations into Campaign Finance violations.

    That works too, right?
     
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    I am presenting historical data on impeachment proceeding of Clinton and how it compares to the current impeachment proceeding of trump.
     

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