Trump's Raids are meant to terrorize Americans. So I decided to help stop this.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Jul 14, 2019.

  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Messages:
    42,519
    Likes Received:
    18,649
    Trophy Points:
    113
    When ICE officers knock on the door of a targeted alien, the person inside hands them a small red card. This is what the red card says:
    • I do not wish to speak with you, answer your questions, or sign or hand you any documents based on my 5th Amendment rights under the United States Constitution.
    • I do not give you permission to enter my home based on my 4th Amendment rights under the United States Constitution unless you have a warrant to enter, signed by a judge or magistrate with my name on it that you slide under the door.
    • I do not give you permission to search any of my belongings based on my 4th Amendment rights.
    • I choose to exercise my constitutional rights.
    • These cards are available to citizens and noncitizens alike
    Upon receiving this card, ICE agents have no option but to vacate the premises.

    It is being sponsored by several organizations. One of them is the Immigrant Legal Resource Center.

    https://www.ilrc.org/red-cards

    Given that the Trump administration is using terrorism to politicize this, I found this project worthwhile. Myself, I decided to make a small donation to the project. I hope it helps stop this abuse.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2019
  2. therooster

    therooster Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2014
    Messages:
    13,004
    Likes Received:
    5,494
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lol...sure, you nailed it this time . Open borders for all...
     
  3. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't know what to say. That is such an absurdly false premise that I can't imagine why anyone would make such a statement.

    Where do you come up with this stuff?
     
  4. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Messages:
    42,519
    Likes Received:
    18,649
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you see only two alternatives: doing away with constitutional rights, or open borders. Very short-sighted.
     
  5. Capt Nice

    Capt Nice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2017
    Messages:
    9,998
    Likes Received:
    10,217
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Thank you.
     
    Derideo_Te and Bowerbird like this.
  6. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What "Constitutional rights" are you inventing?
     
  7. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    41,837
    Likes Received:
    32,503
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Illegal immigrants have no constitutional rights

    After they hand them the little red card the agent should immediately place them in handcuffs
     
  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Messages:
    42,519
    Likes Received:
    18,649
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well... there's this little "book" I read once. Some say it's kind of a "big deal". They call it "The Constitution of the United States"
     
    Derideo_Te and Bowerbird like this.
  9. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Messages:
    42,519
    Likes Received:
    18,649
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Read OP
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  10. Hotdogr

    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2013
    Messages:
    11,021
    Likes Received:
    5,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Illegal aliens have no Constitutional rights, do they?
     
  11. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm pretty sure that those provisions don't apply. I am not aware of any criminal being immune to arrest, so long as they don't open the door.

    Again... where do you come up with this stuff?
     
  12. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Go steal a car, park it in your garage, and see how much good your invented Constitutional rights do for you.
     
  13. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sorry bro, sounds like the book you read was Mao's Little Red Book or Marx's Manifesto. If someone wrote US Constitution on the cover, that was just a dirty trick...
     
    ToddWB, TurnerAshby, Badaboom and 4 others like this.
  14. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump terrorizes snowflakes with the law.
     
  15. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,874
    Likes Received:
    8,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The police need a warrant to go into a garage to retrieve a stolen car unless they see it go into that garage as a part of a chase. Even then, they still might have a search and seizure problem. If ICE agents wish to enter the homes of suspected undocumented persons, they need a warrant. This is America, not China, North Korea or Russia. We do not allow police agencies to enter private residences without proper documentation here.
     
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2019
  16. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ya think that ICE doesn't have valid court orders for the people that they go after?
     
    TurnerAshby, modernpaladin and Ddyad like this.
  17. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2019
    Messages:
    10,291
    Likes Received:
    13,163
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "Trump's Raids are meant to terrorize Americans."

    Um, what's your definition of "Americans"?
     
  18. therooster

    therooster Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2014
    Messages:
    13,004
    Likes Received:
    5,494
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lefty is destroying stars and stripes and hanging mexican flags... very short sighted . Yea.
     
    ButterBalls and Ddyad like this.
  19. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,874
    Likes Received:
    8,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You must have missed the parts in civics about the bill or rights and search/arrest warrants.
     
  20. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Again... Ya think that ICE doesn't have valid court orders for the people that they go after?
     
    TurnerAshby, Badaboom, vman12 and 3 others like this.
  21. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,874
    Likes Received:
    8,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If they have a warrant, signed by a judge to enter the home and arrest a person they can legally enter. If not, they have to ****.
     
    Bowerbird and Ddyad like this.
  22. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Er...

    OK...
     
    TurnerAshby, ButterBalls and Ddyad like this.
  23. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,874
    Likes Received:
    8,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Many ICE raiders have already been turned away by people because they had no such documentation.
     
    Phyxius and Bowerbird like this.
  24. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2010
    Messages:
    19,874
    Likes Received:
    8,447
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Anyone on US soil is afforded the rights guaranteed under the Bill Of Rights.
     
    Derideo_Te, Phyxius and Bowerbird like this.
  25. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2017
    Messages:
    18,135
    Likes Received:
    13,224
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hmm... maybe.
     
    ButterBalls likes this.

Share This Page