Trump's staff coordinated with the Russians during the election

Mishandling classified information.

For the record, I do not think she ran a child trafficking ring.

He was talking about what Assange was about to do, after talking to Assange.

The crimes aren't. Exposing the embarrassing behavior is. The Supreme Court already ruled on that.

Everyone has his opinions.

He is not the tool of the Globalists, which Clinton is. That redeeming feature covers a multitude of sins, that and stopping illegal immigration and keeping out the Muslims.

 

And where was the charge?
And where was her indictment?
And were was her arraignment?

Foreknowlege of a crime.

So having foreknowledge of the crime is okay (as you admitted he had) but not the crime itself?

Except it is fact that he has not served the public—never held elective public office. It is fact that, to date, he has not let us in on his plan to replace Obamacare with anything (much less something that was “going to be terrific” as he stated). He said he knew more about defeating ISIS than the Generals….where is his plan for that? He said that people making $25K or less (couples making $50K or less) will pay $0.00 income taxes while spending $1T on the infrastructure. Can’t wait to see the math work on that.

All of the above are facts. That he is a pervert is hardly arguable. That he has made derogatory comments about women based on their appearance is not arguable. Etc…

So when he was having his Trump branded clothing, etc…. made overseas…he wasn’t being a “globalist”?

Let me guess, that is one of those sins that is “covered” as well.

The House passed a bill allowing your ISP to sell your browsing history to anyone who wants it: foreign or domestic. It will likely pass the Senate. Should Trump sign the bill; will you give up the charade that he isn’t a tool of the globalists?

 

Quashed by Bill Clinton's button holing the AG.

What crime? Assange committed no crime.

And I am pretty sure foreknowledge of a crime is not a crime, but I don't think there was a crime here.

That is all very interesting. Not really pertinent to this discussion, though.

Yup, that is small potatoes compared with torpedoing the TPP. And it was the globalists who moved the factories overseas in the first place. There is little or no US competition. Trump buys his clothes from overseas, just like I, and you too, do.

Google already sells my browsing history to anyone who wants it. I have no expectation of privacy already. That there is another player is of little consequence. That issue is a fight between mega-corporations, Google wants fewer competitors, and has very little practical import for you or I.

But all that is why I use a VPN. If you are truly concerned about privacy, you should too. Not that a VPN foils the tracking cookies that Google supplies me with. To do that requires other tools.

 

And Trump has had his AG in place for 90 days…no charges.

It isn’t…it’s unethical though. Especially when the demonstrated foreknowledge of the crime is going to happen against your political opponent and contaminate what Trump called our “sacred” election process.

As for the actions of Roger Stone; it has nothing to do with Assange who published the hacked data but the hacker himself. Here is the pertinent tweet from the hacker to Roger Stone on 8/12/16.







Amazingly…the hacker and Roger Stone are connected. That, in and of itself is remarkable that there is a connection between a Russian hacker and a political operative. Anyway, earlier that day here is Stone advertising the upcoming release from Guccifer of Roger Stone:



I’m sure it’s a coincidence, right?

Again, why would Stone give 2 shits about Twitter and some hacker?

So you don’t care about your privacy and apparently if you were to get hacked, and Assange published your SSN for the world to see, you’d blame yourself for it. Am I correct about that?

But What about those who do care about their privacy? Again, if Trump signs the bill that allows globalists at Verizon, AT&T, etc… to sell your data and make millions of dollars more….will you give up the charade that he’s somehow an anti-globalist?

I mean, look, you are the one making your browsing history by typing in www.____________. com or whatever. You are typing it in; you bought the computer that you are doing it on. If you were typing a novel, it would be the same thing. Would you be okay if Microsoft were to make a play that since they created MS Word (or Apple with their Pages software), they own your novel and sell it to Random House or Pendant? That is what AT&T and Verizon would be doing; taking your input and selling it at a total of $0.00 reimbursement to you.

 

Illogical. Conservatives aren't jumping around like fleas demanding trials. Trump said the first moment in office he wasn't interested in pursuing Hillary. What progs are clueless about is why.
It is because those kinds of events tear apart the fabric of the society and makes enemies of friends and family members. Republicans get it.

Progs itching to pull Trump from office are immature and irresponsible children.

The progs want enemies - they want to tear the fabric even if they have to invent a reason for a trial. The real issue with progs isn't justice or the law, it's how to tear apart the fabric of the society - and that is why they are hateful and malicious - and why the party is shrinking as it becomes so blatantly obvious. They are so stupid they haven't figured out they are spitting into the wind.

 

What I see clearly is that you've made a "judgement" based on your pre-established "values", which fail to take into account important data regarding the safety, security, economic integrity, and cultural survival of our country; and that you are unwilling to think your way out of the position which has been prebaked for you by our media for our elites.

 

But conservatives wishing the same for Obama were mature and responsible???

Your generalizations speak in defense of partisan politics, in which right and wrong are defined by party affiliation.

 

OK. No crime. I am glad we cleared that up.

Where do you get that idea. I care enough to use a VPN. All my traffic through the ISP is encrypted. They don't get anything from me.

And if I get hacked, of course I would blame myself for it, just like if I leave the keys in my car and it gets stolen.

They should take steps to secure their privacy, then. But most people don't seem to care and in fact are at pains to publicly post their lives on Facebook, etc.

I am much more impressed by Trump's restricting immigration and renegotiating trade deals. These are very solid anti-globalist positions. The globalists (such as Soros) all hate him.

I have my doubts as to how effective Trump will be, but an ineffective anti-globalist is much better than the globalist's bought and paid for tool, Ms. Clinton.

 

If Putting got his man in the white house, I guess that shows how weak Obama and his team were. Losing to Russia and the Republicans, he just can't seem to do anything right, even though he had power with the most powerful country in the world. Yes, he could not retain that seat, the game of thrones is just to much for him.

 

WOW! Comparing an unknown event, to one that is known. Please....get outta here with your "dumb statement". The entire world knows when the American presidential elections are held. Any sort of voter fraud, shows weakness to the current administration of the time. In this case, Obama.

 

Yeah, it’s also held in over 100,000 different voting locations:

https://www.quora.com/How-many-polling-places-are-there-in-the-United-States

That Trump and company have lowered the bar with the applause of people like yourself, I suppose, now allows any sort of lawlessness to permeate the electoral process (at all levels). Truman Capote wrote, “The problem with living outside the law is that you no longer have its protection.” When the hackers fabricate documents they supposedly got during a hack in 2020…can we just chalk it up to the “anything goes” atmosphere you’re applauding today?

 

All your saying is Obama and his administration cannot handle Trump and his. You realize this..................right?

 

Not sure where you get that from.

No, I’m stating that the hacking of the DNC which is a criminal act—right???—was done in collusion with the Trump campaign and that a large segment of the population and assuringly you, applaud our President colluding with a criminal element to win an election. If you argue that, can you explain Roger Stone’s contact with Guccifer2?

It isn’t a question of handling; it’s a question of just how dirty do you intend to get before you say, “hold on” and withdraw support. Trump is wrong about a lot of things but I am pretty sure he is right that he could shoot someone and his supporters would be behind him all the way. You seem to be unwavering in your support for this pervert.

 

All the more so since you had Trumpsters on this Forum gleefully posting about how they were anticipating their next data dump from the Russians.

There is no doubt that the Russians tried to influence the election and move it to Trump (a weak, inexperience, arrogant little bully that would be easy to push around).

The only thing that remains is whether or not the Trump team or its surrogates colluded in the effort. Circumstantial evidence suggests that is a very strong possibility.

Right now the volume on the right wing noise machine is turned up to Eleven, trying to do what they always do, make it about Clinton and Obama. That ship sailed in November. But Trump doesn't seem to know when to stop campaigning.

 

He was talking about what Assange was about to do, after talking to Assange.

Assange was colluding with the Russians (Gucifer was a Russian agent)

I'm glad you understand now

 

Criminal acts was done all throughout the Obama administration, where you at on those?

You said, "No, I’m stating that the hacking of the DNC which is a criminal act—right???—was done in collusion with the Trump campaign and that a large segment of the population and assuringly you, applaud our President colluding with a criminal element to win an election. If you argue that, can you explain Roger Stone’s contact with Guccifer2?"

So you admit that the DNC, surely ran by Obama, was unfit to secure their own server/network for a presidential election? That's kind of scary, seems how he was in charge of the entire United States of America! What's that, Hillary also was unfit to secure top secret and classified documents. Oh, she lost them on an unsecure server/network, wow that sounds like the presidential Trump allegations. Perhaps if they was doing stuff by protocol, none of this would have ever of happened. This is an area you seem to want to overlook, or just ignore completely, why is that?

Again if what your claiming is true, and Trump and Russia worked together to get Trump elected, that just shows how pathetic Obama and his administration is when it comes to upholding the law, protecting the country, and making sure there is a fair and secure election process!

In a competitive event, what is it that a child usually says after losing, "they cheated".

 

Yes, I understand all right. Assange told Stone about Podesta. Big deal. If Assange had misdialed and left the information on your answering machine, could we accuse you of colluding with the Russians?

 

Yet still no evidence.

 

In exactly what way are you suggesting they "colluded?" Somebody hacked Podesta, et. al., and released the information. What did Trump purportedly do to enable these events? How could he have prevented them, if he had a mind to?

 

Yea well that's not what happened.

Next?

 

"Somebody"?

The Russians

 

I see, if Trump and Russia worked together to defeat Clinton, that is Obama's fault somehow, as if he could prevent DNC and Podesta's computers from being hacked. In your mind, that is not Trump's fault or responsibility. It is perfectly okay for a Presidential candidate to work with an enemy power to defeat the other Presidential candidate in your book.

Being a Trump loyalist requires one to be a traitor to his country.

 

Let's face it, you are protecting the Russians and Assange, a fugitive from American justice whose organization damaged our national security multiple times. Russia and Wikileaks interfered in our elections on Trump's behalf, and basically you are saying that is okay with you.

I am amazed at the lengths Trump fans will go to defend their hero. I checked your sketchy bio. You didn't say where you are from. Are you American?

 

Assange is not a fugitive from American justice. He is a fugitive from Swedish justice which accuses him of rape.

But my question is: how did Trump "collude" with the Russians? It is true, I am not overly troubled over the exposure of the corruption of the DNC or Mrs. Clinton, both of which present a greater threat to American security than the Russians, imo.

I was born in Brooklyn, so whether I am an American is sort of a gray area.

 

OK, how did Trump "collude" with the Russians?