Trump's support among Republicans plummets.

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  1. Nemesis

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    https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-republican-support-plummets-20-points-new-poll-shows-1746086

    Amid an escalating series of legal woes, former President Donald Trump has seen his support amongst Republican voters drop significantly, according to a recent poll.

    The poll, conducted in a collaboration between ABC News and The Washington Post, was released on Sunday and showed a steep decline in popularity for Trump now, compared to the support he had in 2020 when he secured the GOP nomination for reelection. According to the poll, which has a margin of error of 3.5 percent, 47 percent of Republican and conservative-leaning independent respondents said that they support Trump as the prospective party nominee in 2024, while 46 percent oppose the idea. This, ABC News said, represents a 20 percent drop in support from 2020.

    The poll, conducted for the news outlets by Langer Research Associates, showed President Joe Biden pulling ahead slightly in a hypothetical 2024 match-up against Trump, 48-to-46, which ABC News called "essentially tied." However, when the pool of respondents was refined to include registered voters only, the match-up reversed to Trump's favor with a 48-to-46 breakdown.
     
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    Hmmm. Trumpers don't want to comment.
     
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    A poll conducted between ABC News and the Washington Post.... Lol
     
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    Maybe if you try to be honest then you will get more answers.
    "NOT SUPPORTING TRUMP" doesn't mean you do "NOT SUPPORT TRUMP"
    sound weird?
    it isn't that strange
    with all of these partisan hit job scandals against Trump people KNOW he won't be able to accomplish anything that he says and is pointless to support (from a voter standpoint)
    It turns out the weaponized DOJ works well for the left.
    It also turns out that because of that, we could end up with someone "Trumpier" than trump.
    Personally, as Trump supporter, Trump is no longer "Trumpy" enough to get my support
     
  5. Nemesis

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    So, you are "NOT SUPPORTING TRUMP" because of a bunch of conspiracy theories. Got it.
     
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    They're lying about the results?
     
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    This is not a favorability rating where he lost 20 points in his favorability amongst Republicans. Rather it is comparing the number of Republicans in 2020 while he was president supporting him being the nominee while running unopposed for the nomination versus a hypothetical 2 years in the future where he would be running against a crowded field that is naturally going to fracture that support amongst multiple people while also being 4 years older. To call this an apples-to-oranges comparison is a gross understatement.

    The person that wrote this headline is desperately trying to give the impression that his support is turning on him due to legal issues but the above stated differences more than explain a 20 point swing as far as their preferred nominee and it says not one thing about legal issues. If anything, a 47-46 breakdown versus a crowded field would be indicative of a candidate that is likely to run away with that nomination. For that matter, a candidate with 30% support at this juncture vs a crowded field is likely to run away with that party's nomination. You are presenting this as if it is devastating for Trump because you read the headline, but in reality, the data revealed is shockingly positive for him.

    Id personally be one of the Republicans not supporting him ( if polled) as the nominee because he is getting old, and he would also immediately be a lame duck when entering office because it would be his last term, both of which makes me prefer Desantis as the nominee. But if Trump does win the nomination, he will beyond any doubt receive my vote. I suspect most Republicans not supporting him in the above poll feel the same way. This has absolutely nothing to do with the witch hunt going on.
     
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  8. Hey Now

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    Many Trump "posters" here will ignore this thread like the plague. They want the safety of the neo fascist bubble but those that do will simply keep derailing the thread.
     
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    No but nice spin.
    He lost. Why would someone vote for someone that lost? I think you are upset he's losing support because you know he will lose again and that is what you want.
    HAHA. We aren't as dumb as you think.
     
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    No.

    They simply gave a headline that is highly misleading.
     
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    I think this OP completely misses what's actually going on in America right now, and in fact, is happening around the world. There is a rising tide of national populist movement in places like Poland, Hungary, Sweden, Italy, and a slew of other countries around the globe. The ruling elite are losing all credibility. It is already strong in America and Trump understands that and has ridden it to massive popularity. If Trump disappears from the scene he will only be replaced by someone else, such as my current favorite Governor Ron DeSantis. Anyone hoping this will go away by demonizing Trump. is deluding himself
     
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    Good, let's the other better candidates move forward.
     
  13. Nemesis

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    I'm happy that he's losing support, but would still love for him to be the GOP candidate in 2024. A kernel of corn in the toilet would be able to defeat him in 2024.
     
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    I'm going to forward this post to Donny on what he calls "Troth Sitchel". He'll be furious.
     
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    Because Don is all about Don, and not anything else, will he launch a third party bid under the MAGA banner out of spite if he isn't nominated? Thereby siphoning votes from the Repub candidate. Has he come up with any derogatory nicknames for DeSantis yet? Or accused Ron's mom of being part of a conspiracy to kill RFK? After that absolutely batshyte crazy interview with Hannity when he claimed he could declassify docs by farting anything is possible.
     
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    As long as they are not trying to halt democratic processes to reach their goal, fine.
    But when one loses, they should accept they are not wanted by most of the voters and not try to halt the peaceful transfer of power.
    Then steal gov't documents when he leaves office.

    We will never change the method of politics in this country as long as we let the 2 party control have nearly unlimited funds backed by big money who can hide their support behind PACs and other vehicles like it.

    If one want's to halt the big gov't/2 party rule, we need to clean up how money is being used as bribe in the process. All IMO of course.
     
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    0% chance if he runs that he is not nominated, So moot point
     
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    I am not a trump supporter and would say that I have an unfavorable view of him if I participated in polls. Unfortunately, these 1006 people do not represent "Americans". These are people that answer unidentified calls and have time for lengthy surveys. Those with successful careers and families are drastically underrepresented.

    METHODOLOGY – This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by landline and cellular telephone Sept. 18-21, 2022, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,006 adults, including 908 registered voters. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3.5 percentage points, including the design effect. Partisan divisions in the full sample are 28-24-41 percent, Democrats-Republicans-independents, and 27-26-40 percent among registered voters.
     
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    You're doing a fine job of doing that on your own. :)
     
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    Lol so if trump is still tied or leading Biden now and he has 20% less support from republicans… it must be independents flocking to trump keeping his statistical probability the same.

    Unless one of you Libs can provide another explanation? But I don’t think you can.

    Now ask yourself. That 20% of republicans, do you think they’re going to not vote for trump if he becomes the nominee? Lol

    Cause I’m pretty damn confident most of them will.
     
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    Well, per the norm, you've very little to add or offer since talking points defending POS45 lack and the one's available are easily parried and vanquished. Hard to accept the Cheeto Hezuz is a POS? Rhetorical JIC :)
     
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    It's wishful thinking on your part.

    Aren't you glad I responded.

    Now are you going to pontificate how Liz Cheney who was voted out by Republicans is the true Republican because leftists agree with her?

    They don't engage because this is bait.

    We all heard it every other duplicate on this forum. Interested and they're just isn't anything left to talk about.
     
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    It's a bait thread.
     

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