Tucker Carlson: Diveristy Makes Us Weaker -- Is He Right??

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    https://www.gq.com/story/tucker-carlson-white-nationalist-diversity-terrible



    By now, we should all know the uproar some folks have had behind Tucker Carlson's diversity rant. I also saw a video where it pretty much highlights the tightrope Tucker is walking and how stunningly similar what he says lines up with what self-declared white supremacists say. However, for now, I will concede that diversity is bad and has always made us weaker as a country, fine. My question is, how do we fix it?

    I am sure the first step is to end immigration (Legal included) from countries where people who do not look like we do, speak like we do, and think like we do -- those people would be banned. So which countries look like we do, speak like we do and think like we do?

    But to follow Tucker's anti-diversity crusade to its logical conclusion, our country will only be made stronger if we are more culturally/racially homogenous and since he has concluded that those from undesirable countries can't be that, how do we fix it? Meaning, what do we do about the people who came here "legally" from countries that don't look like, speak like or think like we do??? Honest question..
     
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    Diversity is fine, assimilation is a must.
     
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    The idea centers on acceptance of the culture of the United States, it's common policies and objectives.

    If people come here who refuse to accept these principles, the Nation is harmed by them. This has been proven throughout the course of Human History.
     
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    Sorry I had a really hard time reading this after seeing your Superfly avatar from one of the Bruce Lee movies. That dude was a dork. :roflol:
     
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    With diversity and multiculturalism comes the always corrupt, often dictatorial banana republicanism immigrants are accustomed. I shouldn't have to say which political ideology is better served by such.
     
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    I suppose it's difficult for liberals to actually understand nuance. The conflation, however, that creates a perception that what Tucker is advocating is akin to white supremacy is utter BS. The left don't want their carefully cultivated method of importing folks who are both less educated, more dependent, and more likely to simply accept tyranny is being challenged. Of course they're upset. I would point out that the civil rights folks of decades past made EXACTLY the same arguments that Tucker is today. And, just like then, liberals are melting down. Funny how history repeats itself....
     
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    Jim Kelly is not Superfly...maybe you didn't like his character in the movie, but Jim Kelly the man was a great man, great athlete and great martial artist.
     
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    Do you at least acknowledge that people have made this claim for over a 100 years or more?

    American culture is the product of multiculturalism......and this country does a better job than most other countries in the world when it comes to assimilation. What Tucker is doing is cashing in people's fear and resentment, the same as many others have done before him and will after him..

    but my question is, instead of whining about "the others" -- what are some policies that can be put in place to stop the need of all the whining? I said to ban immigration from places we don't like, any other suggestions?
     
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    Ethnic diversity has no impact however cultural diversity can be good or bad. The US overall is very successful at adopting new cultures, just look how fast we adopt new foods and festivals without batting an eye. The key is to take the good parts of a new culture and reject the bad parts.

    California is a prime example of basically just turning into little Mexico. We don't want another Mexico because Mexico is a ****ing crappy country with almost no redeeming qualities. Keep the food, music etc. reject the political fatalism and corruption. Texas has almost the same percentage of Hispanics California does but Hispanics in California fair much better because Texas isn't trying to actively turn itself into Mexico-lite.

    Europe is an example of how NOT to do diversity. They just plain up suck at it.
     
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    I agree with not wanting the bad part of anyone's culture -- but political corruption isn't a cultural issue, we have political corruption here from "real Americans" -- is that because of American culture? No, it is because of HUMAN nature.

    To me the whole cultural argument is just a dodge because the previous racial argument was defeated and those who push it get rightfully shunned -- so as usual, people have to try to rebrand and re-package the same old tripe and pass it off as "free exchange of ideas"

    People can opine about how bad it is to have people from non-white countries all they like, I am only interested in what policies people are willing to implement to stop it
     
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    He's full of it. Our country was very strong because we turned diversity into a strong point, not for the sake of diversity itself (which is useless), but to take the best of numerous cultures and make it our own.
     
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    Oh, this was the video I was referring to -- he may not be a white supremacist, but they definitely seem to shop at the same talking points boutique...
     
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    There is a difference between how the US deals with political corruption compared to many other countries in the world. In Mexico's case they just put up with and and pretend it doesn't exist. They had the same party in power for 70 years cause they just paid off everyone. We now see this happening more and more in California where the state is committing suicide and no on in that state is trying to stop it. All the smart people either left or hold themselves up in gated communities and pretend nothing is wrong.

    If you can't separate culture form race then you are the problem not other people. Culture is entirely separate from race and the fact that you are trying to link them just shows that you are biased and have no real interest in any discussion. Mexico plain up sucks balls. It has nothing to do with the color of their skin it has more to do with them being historically Catholic. Most Catholic countries score in the middle of the Freedom Index compared countries founded by Protestant Christianity which has a more negative view of religious hierarchies than Catholics. This view extends to government functions as well where the US and European countries have among the most limited governments compared to the rest of the world.

    The same people you claim are racist have no problems with Asians, Jews and Indians because those groups have been among the most successful at not only just integrating but also excelling, even outperforming native born Americans.
     
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    I guess that's why the bowtie had to go. Cant have any light in the loafer freaks that you suspect like alternative equipment handling a mic.

    Tucker Carlson is a hack, paid for and owned. He is not very intelligent. Just talks fast.

    The guy is a human poodle. Or some anklebiter.
     
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    Nah, this is garbage. Tucker isn't ranting to create fear. That's what folks like Kamala or Ortiz are doing. Fear. The fear of having the spigot turned off on then. Fear mongering and the left go hand and glove. What Tucker is pointing out is exactly why the left want diversity. To dilute the population of those who would stop liberals from dismantling so many of our inalienable rights. Ironic that liberals are then using aliens to fight our inalienable rights. I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt the first time, but your commentary here seems purposeful. Diversity isn't the cure I think you believe it is. Diversity simply spreads the number of options to be considered. That doesn't inherently make the increase in number of options an entirely good thing.
     
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    it's not "whining" to expect one's country to defend its borders from invading hordes of illegal "diversity".

    The left's conflation of immigration and ILLEGAL immigration is yet one more example of their pathological duplicity. they lie and scheme as a matter of course.
     
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    leftists cynically extol the virtues of diversity and multiculturalism, while simultaneously scolding and shaming people for "appropriating" cultures.

    this should tell you that the liars, schemers and frauds are more interested in fostering divisiveness than promoting unity ('melting pot'). You know, if you're sporting an IQ above 70.
     
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    This above but it's not assimilation but integration I think you meant. I want to expound upon it.

    Tucker specifically mentioned the Muslim immigration and integration issues Europe is having. But then he gives a platform too white nationalists who are flat out racists against all non white non English speaking immigrants who are also against Latino immigrants illegal or not purely based on skin color or the fact they may not speak English well. That is wrong. Latinos are highly conservative on all moral issues and almost all catholic. They share many American core values and integrate into our culture and have done so for more than a 100 years.

    Muslims? Do not share western core values, and really only embrace freedom of religion and speech so they can complete resist integration into western cultures. This is proven. Look at Great Britian. London specifically as an example. Two full Burroughs there are 90% Muslim. They have no wish to integrate they simply bring more in and have more children. 2.5 times Caucasian birth rates. Now that their pop % are high enough 15% plus? They have successfully resisted integration long enough now they have begun Assimilation of Britian culture using liberal values as their keystone and changing the country to fit their Muslim values via politics and new laws.

    So pretty much Tucker is full of crap for trying to dance that line and giving these stupid racists multiple ones in fact a huge platform to espouse all kinds of racist idiocy to include all races and cultures. Latinos and Muslims are apples and oranges.
     
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    I noticed you didn't include Nigerians, they are the most educated immigrants who come to the US -- not among the most, "THE MOST" -- but I think "most educated" and "Nigerians" don't cross your mind much when it comes to immigration stats.

    As for this country didn't have a problem with Jews, Asians and Indians, , not now they don't....but they did in the recent past, and they still aint too fond of Jews, they are just powerless to do much about it.....and if you feel how successful you are equals "American culture" than you would be wrong....Asians have whole communities in every major city in the country known as either china town, korea town -- do you have a problem with that? I don't -- I enjoy being exposed to different cultures.

    I look forward to celebrating Oktoberfest even tho that is from German culture, I celebrate St Pat's day even tho that is Irish culture --- but Cinco de Mayo, I draw the line!!!
     
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    I'm very certain a white guy shouldn't be lecturing us on whether diversity makes us weaker or not, especially one from Fox.
     
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    Diversity helped us win WW2......don't believe me, ask the Windtalkers
     
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    Intellectual diversity is good. Racial, cultural, and religious diversity spawns identity politics. Besides, progressives say that race is just a social construct, meaning everyone is the same... so how could it be true that racial diversity is a strength?
     
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    I knew he was NOT Superfly, but he did his best to mimic him in that movie. Soulja. :p
     
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    Depends.

    Diversity of thought is great, sharpens our ideas.

    Diversity of genetics is great, helps out our genetic code.

    Diversity of culture .... not so much.

    Sure, it is great to have a melting pot. But at the end of the day we all have to have the same culture and that used to be self reliance and the so called "American Dream", which was built on self reliance.

    But lately, this is changing and more and more people do not want to rely on themselves. This is a horrible thing for a country as the more it happens, the more it will be torn apart.
     
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    The first step is to eliminate immigration by people with no skills, no money, low IQs, a sense of entitlement, and who have no intention of living the American dream but instead want to mooch off of it. I don't care what a people looks like, but I do care that they speak my language, think like an American and hold a patriotic loyalty to America.
     

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