Tucker Carlson: What the fight for slavery reparations tells us about today's Democratic Party

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    Shock radio listeners will recognize Carlson’s cracks about celebrities, politicians and women as pretty standard for the format. Britney Spears and Paris Hilton are “the biggest white whores in America,” Carlson said on the show. Hillary Clinton would “castrate you” if she could. Oprah Winfrey “hate the penis” and is “anti-man.” Carlson riffs comically on rape, underage sex, the molestation of a 13-year-old and worse. In simple terms, Tucker Carlson is a complete and total idiot.


     
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    oh my, not another trumper that's itchin' to pull the trigger on some 'libruls'. A trumper with a gun that's anxious to kill other Americans with.
     
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    The question is not "is there white privilege" but "what have whites done with their privilege that has helped non-whites?"

    Since the modern world is largely the creation of whites, we can say "Quite a lot".

    In addition to vaccination and electricity and jet airplanes and calculus and Big Macs, their
    greatest contribution to humanity was the concept of equal rights, a society based on the rule of law, and government with the consent of the governed.

    Everyone should be deeply grateful to whites for producing these things.
     
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    I think I can safely say along with many Trump supporters is put up or shut up. We are sick of the constant crying, protesting, and attacks just because of our political choice. Trump is President. F'n deal with it. I endured 8 years of Obama attacking my profession and way of life. Now its your turn. If you cant handle it, lets see what kind of balls you liberals got.
     
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    Yeah but Barack Obama wasn't a narcissistic, out of control lunatic like Trump is. At least people didn't live in fear in this country every single day. All you had to complain about Barack Obama is that he was a Black man.
     
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    What kind of fear are you talking about? What are you afraid of?
     
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    Obama had a DIRECT negative impact on my family. We did not know if we would have jobs from the next day to the next. It was a REAL fear myself and many others lived with everyday for EIGHT years. I do not want to hear your petty complaints about Trump because he hurts your feelings.
     
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    [QUOTE="HumbledPi, post: 1070698578, member: 78900 All you had to complain about Barack Obama is that he was a Black man.[/QUOTE]
    And once again you have to drag race into it. Race had nothing to do with it. Providing for my family had EVERYTHING to do with it. Please get that thru your ignorant head.
     
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    A president that cares about Americans from what I gather.
     
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    What do you do for a living that you were afraid for your job during Obama times?
     
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    I work mainly in the coal industry. I work for a Caterpillar dealer and manage fleet maintenance contracts.
     
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    Ohh, I see.
    Obama did have some issues with the coal industry.
    Even though I didn’t support Obama’s policies I do think the industry will be extinct fairly soon due to environmental impact.
     
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    Health care for pre-existing conditions removed for one thing. The Republican Party has made great efforts to snatch health insurance from people with pre-existing conditions. They have tried multiple times to do it through legislation and are trying to do it right now through legal and regulatory efforts.

    The lack of experience and knowledge of his top advisors and the fact that the most important and critical cabinet position such as Secretary of Defense are being filled by 'acting' positions.

    The fact that Mike Pence has openly supported several anti-LGBTQ efforts and restricted women's reproductive health.

    Trump has brought out the worst in America. From the start of the Trump campaign, racists, bigots, and white extremists came out of the woodwork. We saw evidence of this kind of madness at the rallies, physically assaulting dissenters., Yes, I understand that not all of Trump’s voters share his sentiments but the fact of the matter is that a large population of his voters consistently cite that the reason they voted for him was because he “tells it like it is” which loosely translates to “he says all the racist **** we've all been thinking.” This is a problem.

    He has zero knowledge of geopolitics and how the US is viewed by the world. He has abandoned our longest and most fierce allies around the world and instead of takes sides with long-time adversaries like Putin, Duterte and Kim Jong-un.

    He blew up the Iran nuclear deal only because it was President Obama that engineered it, that's the simple truth. And now, he's stuck in a box without our allies supported the US in this disastrous move.

    I can go on, I could probably fill at least two full pages of the reasons why Trump is a disaster for this country.

     
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    We don't owe ****. My family and ancestors damn sure don't. My ancestors were indentured servants and were poorer than a lot of blacks, so take that garbage elsewhere.

    FYI, for the 1000th GD time, the USA didn't exist in 1619! It only existed after the revolutionary war! 1789 was when this place officially became the USA.

    Slavery didn't exist in 1619 either!

    The Brits started the slave trade. Go stick your hand out to the Queen.
     
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    Just out of interest what is "all the racist ****" that Trump says and his supporters believe?
    (I'm not a Trump supporter, by the way, and might well agree with many of your criticisms.)
     
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    It isn't going anywhere in the near future. A lot of the coal is going oversees. And that is a battle in its self as most of it leaves from the west coast. So you got the crazy liberals over there you have to deal with. They actually protest the trains going to the ports. They complain that the coal dust from the train cars will increase cancer, pollution, black lung, make there dog grow a fifth leg, it never ends. They are so uneducated it is pathetic. The coal is treated before it leaves the mine so the dust is not an issue. Of course the media is no help either. I just a read an article from a very liberal publication about the coal industry. It was very comical.
    They had a picture from a coal fired power plant taken just at dusk at the perfect angle so the steam appeared as this horrible deadly smoke cloud. Fake news! What liberals don't understand is this magical power they want to create is very expensive and will raise you utility bills dramatically. They are even fighting natural gas, which totally amazes me. Some world they live in.
     
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    I'm very curious as well.
     
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    In other words you are over exaggerating things. Obamacare still exists and you can get coverage with preexiating conditions, I believe.



    I don’t know about that. During the last couple of years of Obama’s rule mass media were looking for any racial story they could get. Pretty much any white cop shooting black criminal was blown way out of proportion to the point where riots were happening only for the future rulings to clear the cops from the wrong doing.
    I personally see more racism from blacks than from whites. Do you watch Cops? I’ve seen so many times a black criminal crying racism when the cops were just doing their jobs. Racism became a convenient accusation that is being used in an attempt to get out of trouble or to divert someone’s attention. That’s why it is losing its power. These days if you don’t agree with reparations, affirmative action or don’t vote for a black politician then you are a racist.


    He allowed Ukraine to buy antitank missiles and imposed more sanctions on russia - something Obama didn’t have the balls to do.
    Then he literally walked out on Kim. There is no better way to insult a dictator. Kim even killed and jailed people over this.
    How is that taking sides with Kim and Putin?
    By the way, you might be very surprised, but Trump is viewed favorably in many countries like South Korea, Israel, Poland and Ukraine. He is a supporter of Brexit, which is almost like independence. Poland is actually going to name their military base after Trump.
    So, claiming that Trump abandoned allies is simply not true.
    Trump did seem to be obsessed with reversing Obama’s things, but if Obama wanted Iran deal or Paris Accord to stick he should have gotten approval from the senate to turn these deals into treaties. That is his fault, not Trumps. Don’t you want the system of checks and balances on presidential power? If you do then you must agree that it was Obama who was in the wrong with these deals, not Trump. He was the one who signed agreements knowing perfectly well they won’t pass the final vote. Almost all countries in this world require parliament to agree on international agreement before it takes force. We are not unique about it.
     
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    For starters, going back to the 2015 campaign, Trump compared immigrants (the Mexican kind) with "rapists and murderers". Don't you think it's a little unfair to label a county with 130 million people to all being rapists and murderers? Well, that's precisely what Trump's supporters believe, because he told them so.

    Then there was Charlottesville of course where he claimed "there's some very fine people -- on both sides". No, there wasn't any fine people on EITHER side.

    Before Charlottesville there was the Muslim ban. "I'm calling for a complete and total ban of all Muslims from entering the United States."

    Trump implied that Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge presiding over a class action against the for-profit Trump University, could not fairly hear the case because of his Mexican heritage. “He’s a Mexican,, We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings — rulings that people can’t even believe.”

    When Trump was serving as the president of his family’s real estate company, the Trump Management Corporation, in 1973, the Justice Department sued the company for alleged racial discrimination against black people looking to rent apartments in Brooklyn, Queens .

    The New Jersey Casino Control Commission fined the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino $200,000 in 1992 because managers would remove African-American card dealers at the request of a certain big-spending gambler. A state appeals court upheld the fine. Trump disparaged his black casino employees as “lazy” in vividly bigoted terms, according to a 1991 book by John O’Donnell, a former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino.

    He refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him. Three times, Trump sidestepped opportunities to renounce white nationalist and former KKK leader David Duke, who told his radio audience last week that voting for any candidate other than Trump is “really treason to your heritage.”

    Before calling Mexican immigrants “criminals” and “rapists,” Trump was a leading proponent of “birtherism,” the racist conspiracy theory that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States and is thus an illegitimate president.

    He encouraged the mob justice that resulted in the wrongful imprisonment of the Central Park Five. In 1989, Trump took out full-page ads in four New York City-area newspapers calling for the return of the death penalty in New York and the expansion of police authority in response to the infamous case of a woman who was beaten and raped while jogging in Manhattan’s Central Park. “They should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes,” Trump wrote, referring to the Central Park attackers and other violent criminals. “I want to hate these murderers and I always will.” The men’s convictions were overturned in 2002, after they’d already spent years in prison, when DNA evidence showed they did not commit the crime.

    At a campaign rally in Alabama, Trump supporters physically attacked an African-American protester after the man began chanting “Black lives matter.” Video of the incident shows the assailants kicking the man after he has already fallen to the ground. The following day, Trump implied that the attackers were justified. “Maybe [the protester] should have been roughed up,” he mused. “It was absolutely disgusting what he was doing.”

    That’s why people believe he is a racist and If you can overlook those, your “racism detector” must not be set very high.
     
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    No, I am not 'over-exaggerating' anything, it's all a FACT. Yes, people can still get insurance is they have pre-existing conditions, no thanks to the GOP who presented several bills that would have removed it.

    In 2017, the GOP-controlled House and Senate voted on several versions of a bill that would have dramatically overhauled the ACA, including its protections of pre-existing conditions. Under the last bill that narrowly failed in the Senate, states would have been given authority to allow insurers to waive some of those protections, including the one requiring the same premiums be charged regardless of health status.
     
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    I agree with the health insurance bit. Right now it is a disaster. Our worthless congress needs to get something done NOW. Not after the election. NOW
     
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    Yes you are.
    You can still get coverage with preexisting condition. That means there is no reason to fear for your life. My original question was why you fear for your life.
     
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    I’m all in favor of Medicare for all. Government can offer HMO, limited coverage and insurance companies can offer deals like PPO, or supplementary coverage.
     
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    Trump said Republicans will be the “party of health care.” There’s no reason anyone should have believed that.
    If you’re the sort of person who still believes Trump’s promises on health care, there’s probably nothing at this point that could dissuade you from the notion that Republicans have a “fix” at the ready to replace “Obamacare.”

    If, however, you’re the sort of person who pays attention to the world around you, you have good reason to believe that Trump’s vow to reform the health care system is as bogus and disingenuous as all his others.
    Here is the truth: Trump has no idea what he wants to do about the serious flaws in the American health care system. He has no clue about either of these things. How could he?

    During the repeal push two years ago, Trump’s White House never even bothered coming up with its own proposal, leaving the task instead to Congress, which similarly had no idea what it wanted to do, beyond repealing the dreaded Obamacare and simply gutting the safety net, which has been the party’s goal for several decades at least. Republicans do not have a plan because there is no way for them to have a plan. Americans want less-expensive health care and less-horrible health insurance. Cutting Medicaid and Medicare (which is what has been proposed) and throwing away the health insurance subsidies from the Affordable Care Act will not achieve those results.

    May 2019 was the nine-year anniversary of President Barack Obama signing the Affordable Care Act into law. Obamacare has its very real problems, chiefly that there remain millions of people who can’t afford health insurance and medical care or are barely fitting it into their budgets. But the law also extended health coverage to something like 20 million people who were uninsured before, and it includes a guarantee that no one can be turned down for health coverage because of pre-existing conditions.

    Throughout those nine years and the preceding year and a half of legislative activity around the ACA, the GOP has promised over and over and over again that it would have a great plan that reduced health care costs and made sure people had access to affordable health insurance. Under Trump, the federal government has encouraged states and health insurance companies to reintroduce junk insurance with few benefits and huge potential out-of-pocket costs that make the worst Obamacare plans look good by comparison. The Trump administration has pushed states to seek new limitations on coverage of low-income adults on Medicaid, including work requirements. Arkansas, the first state to adopt work requirements, has quickly proven that the policy is working as intended and has kicked 18,000 people off their health coverage in less than a year. Is that what this country really wants?
     
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    Trump has a nasty personality, but I am not so sure he was directly involved in those instances you quote in his casino. And casino defending itself in court over this is just normal business.

    As for attacks - you know I hear more about attacks on people wearing MAGA hats or Antifa attacking conservative meetings instead of the other way around, so you are just being dishonest here.
     

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