Tucker Carlson: What the fight for slavery reparations tells us about today's Democratic Party

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  1. HumbledPi

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    Now you're denying hard facts. Every instance that I cited is legitimate, real and it all happened.
     
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    Like I said it is a disaster. But it was a disaster well before Trump. But yes I am not impressed at all in this regard when it comes to Trump. The issue I have with Obama Care was how it effected those with private or company supplied insurance plans. My insurance premiums tripled and the deductibles went thru the roof.
     
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    I don’t like Trump myself, didn’t vote for him.
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    From economic perspective the country is doing very well. Trump does the right things when it comes to Russia, NK and China. I think for that many liberals should extend the credit to him. This is quite the opposite of what we were told back in 2016.
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    That's just it, I did not bring Race into it. America brought Race into. Long before I was born, too. Like, 1619.

    You can keep running and hiding and disregarding the, facts, but you are only embarrassing yourself by showing readers you lack the ability to think logically and reasonably when you make sure you are accounting for all forces which act upon a circumstance.
     
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    Alright sorry but you are way to out there for me. No offense but have a good night.
     
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    Raffishragabash Banned

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    So what.

    You and your ancestors lived in America at some point, from 1619-2019, therefore you benefited from slavery's legacy every day of your lives each time you exercised White Privilege somewhere in this nation. Face facts.

    The first ever Slaveship of, negroids, to dock on this continent; Virginia! Yes, in 1619. April 15th.

    And our racist White ancestors took that torch, ran with it, and morphed it into 400yrs of White Privilege with no end in sight!!
     
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    No, let's do better than that; have a good life!!

    Please just do us all a huge favor, forevermore, by never again replying to my posts nor mentioning my username. Fair? Clearly your posts have a deep hatred for, truth, which means every response you get back from me will consist of me lambasting your remarks.




    Peace
     
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    Truth, hurting?!!!


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    ROFL
     
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    The difference between T and F isn't much.
     
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    The last thing I will do is give you any favors. Ain’t gonna happen
     
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    ROFL
     
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    well then I shalt find, solace, in your quest to beg for my attention regarding ironclad Reparations' facts.
     
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    Very passive response.
     
  16. Kal'Stang

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    Just a little point here, and excuse me if its been mentioned already but....isn't Russia over 80% Caucasian or there abouts? If so then your statement here doesn't quite mesh with reality.

    just saying...

    Oh and btw, he said the HE came here, I don't see where he said his family came here....

    Now, all that aside and to the topic of the thread... If reparations are to be paid then it should only be paid by those that owned slaves. Reparations, by its very definition is about paying for wrongs done. That others may have benefitted from that slavery even though they, or their family never once owned a slave is immaterial as they did not own slaves. Only the guilty of a crime pay reparations. Not those that are around them. If a criminal goes and robs a bank, gets away with it for years and uses that money to buy his/her friends various items the police do not go after those people in any way. They go after the criminal, and only the criminal.
     
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    Okay, a good answer.
    Before I reply, could you say how you use the word 'racism' and 'racist'. We may be using the word in the same way, or we may not.
     
  18. Raffishragabash

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    Actually, you meant to say that your statement does not mesh with reality since White humans get to live far more freely in a Republic's democracy vs in a Republic's communism. That's likely why he came to America.

    Just saying...


    Yes, and I said everyone in his family who lived in America anytime from 1619 - 2019. Which means, if a human never lived in America, then they do not owe reparations.

    It's too bad, how you disregarded that small detail, just to troll my post.


    Your statement here is simply not based in, logic, as you had to disregard that we live in a society where humans get punished for criminality which they did not commit but did knowingly benefit from the crime.

    Such as, receiving stolen property. One might not have actually stolen the property, but still knowingly benefitted for decades from the stolen property. Same concept, when applying slavery's blame onto us Whites of today who still benefit from the illegal/immoral legacy of slavery ---at the expense of Black citizens who still get cheated today.

    Face facts.

    Exactly.

    Therefore those humans today who still benefit from the crime, Slavery, are liable for repaying a debt to those victims who still suffer today from the crime's legacy.
     
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    HumbledPi: Just to clarify, would you call someone a racist who confessed that he was walking down the street one night, and heard footsteps behind him, then turned around ... and was relieved to see that the people behind him were white?
    Would you call someone a racist who asserted that a particular racial group were superior in intelligence to another group, in part for genetic reasons?
    If someone asserted that the average IQ of whites in America was higher than the average IQ of Blacks, would you call that person a racist?
     
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    Talk about fantasy.. Perhaps you could cite the US code... Otherwise this is entirely laughable...
     
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    I know, you can't differentiate the legal from the fantasy.. it is kind of disturbing..
     
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    Yes. I would call that person a, racist, since it is a fact that Whites commit far far more violent crime than Blacks.


    Yes. That is a racist person, if, they disregarded the real effects of slavery's legacy/White's racism which confines Black citizens to ghetto life for 156 yrs now.


    No. They are just stating a, fact, although it would more contextual/more forthright of them to identify the White Privilege which slavery created/empowers the huge difference in IQ Test results.
     
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    Except that you didn't say anything about the form of government when you made your statement. You said that his family (him) came here because they (he) saw that America was "greatly White people control this society therefore your family wanted to live in that Utopia." In other words they came here because the US was majority white who controlled everything. The same is true, if not more so, of Russia since there are more Caucasians in Russia than there are in the US. You made it out to be as if race was the only reason that his family (him) moved here. As if Race was the only reason and him moving here was due to a racist act. That is exactly how your post read and came across.

    Just because someone lives someplace does not make them responsible for the wrongs committed by someone else in that place. That is just wacked out thinking there. If I live in an apartment building where an ex-con lives that does not make me responsible for the crimes that ex-con did.



    Speaking of facts...you are being disingenuous here. People who receive stolen items only get punished if they KNOWINGLY receive items that they KNOW are stolen. That is considered being an accessory to a crime. If a person did not know they were receiving stolen items then they are not punished in our system. Now, we could get into the finer points of whether or not people at the time of slavery knowingly or believed that they benefitted from slavery but since we can't read minds, much less minds of dead people, that would be a useless effort.



    Except that no one today suffers from slavery in the US. No one benefits from slavery because it hasn't existed for well over a century.

    If you really believe that people suffer from slavery because of the distant past then perhaps you'll agree that when white people were enslaved centuries ago need reparations? If you want to be consistent you would agree. But you won't. Because you are only interested in select parts of history and will ignore all other history.
     
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    Proof please.
     

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