Tulsa cop Betty Jo Shelby found not guilty in death of Terence Crutcher

Thanks for your service.

 

The officer shouldn't have gone to court in the first place. It was a clean shoot. Guy refused to follow commands, hands disappeared, blast him.

 

Obviously... He was strung out on PCP. I guess he had just decided to turn his life around when he got pulled over. Gotta love the media. This is why police get shot from behind while sitting in their patrol cars. There should be a way to hold the media responsible for over-sensationalizing every black man getting shot by police. They make it dramatic by adding in "unarmed black" because saying "police shoot man" doesn't generate much outrage, and saying "police shoot unarmed white man" DEFINITELY doesn't generate outrage.

 

Pretty sure the police in his country are only allowed to use nightsticks unless it's an upgraded, highly trained police like our SWAT.

 

Hopefully your same anti-cop mentality will remain if you are ever being beaten to death by a gang of thugs and a cop comes by and keeps on walking because of his/her fear of being sued by the thug he/she just shot to save your life.

 

I take care of my own self defense.

Permit to carry - it saves lives.

 

BS. Those who volunteer for that kind of danger should always be given the benefit of the doubt. If they are proven guilty then prosecute them. Otherwise, they deserve our respect and support. Saying they throw away their right to defend themselves because they volunteered for a dangerous job is the most idiotic and cowardly thing I have heard all day. People who think like you make me sick.

 

Too bad the lefties never want to talk about the past history that most of these thugs have has with LE and the court system. My solution for the gang bangers. Send them all into a building slated for demolition, arm them to the teeth, and let nature take it's course. Oh, ya, at the end of the sound of the rounds going off, have family members of the innocent lives they took push the plunger firmly downward.

 

I didn't say they throw away their right to self defense. I just want them held to the same standard of self defense that they expect everyone else to be held to.

As a permit to carry holder - if I shoot that man...I am in jail for a very long time.

They deserve our respect and support? Why? Simply signing up to do a job does not immediately mean you get respect. That is earned.

 

They are out there earning it every day. Do you want to have to shoot people with your weapon? If not, then let's support them so they can do their jobs without fear of being unable to defend themselves or fear of reprisal when they pull the trigger for what they feel is a justified shoot.

 

Ok, so I'll take then that you haven't read the studies about police incidents vs education. That settles that.....

So after you were diagnosed, you weren't treated at all and went back into combat?? Is that what you are saying???

 

How do you act more suspicious? Where were his hands at the time he was shot?

Right, but she could smell the PCP on him though.

He was holding a weapon so all bets are off.

Funny how folks like you defended the officer in the Oscar Grant case and he was cuffed laying face down. I guess he was threat also.

 

And I can remember numerous times young children killed behind walls sitting in their homes from drive by thugs having a fun filled evening, so what's your point?

 

Dis wot happenz whn u step 2 da man yo! Awww yeeeeah boyeeeee.

In other words, when you don't follow the lawful commands of a police officer, you might end up dead. Why? Because police officers have families and they want to see them again. This guy CLEARLY disobeyed commands of the officers as he blatantly walked back to his vehicle and reached inside. It is at that moment that he is tragically killed by the police. I don't know why it is so hard for African Americans to understand this - you fight with the cops, you will lose. Of course sometimes the cops lose, but nobody seems to give a **** about them.

 

I think I stated clearly I was treated. I don't think I could spell it out much more clearly. Soooo, what's the issue with hiring combat vets as cops?

 

Are they? Pulling people over for doing 60 in a 55? Issuing tickets for any number of bullshit law's. Are they really earning that respect? Pulling tasers on someone who is simply voicing his displeasure with the enforcement of some stupid law. Cop's are simply the armed enforcement wing of the government. Everyone claims to have a huge issue with government and its regulations but is more than happy to lick the boots of the people charged with enforcing that bullshit. Its just hilarious.

Nope

I don't care if they feel something is a justified shoot. That isn't their call to make...just like it isn't mine. I just want to see cops go to jail for what I have seen citizens locked up for all day long...being trigger happy.

 

News Flash - simply because an officer yells a command...doesn't make that command lawful.

 

Par for the course that a black person got himself killed because he couldn't be bothered to simply do what the cops told him to do? Par for the course that Tulsa will likely burn tonight? That's not a course I want to play.

 

What do you mean it's not their call??? That is exactly why they exist. And you have issues with cops enforcing the law? We hire them to enforce the law that exists, not pick and choose which laws they will enforce and which they will not. THAT is what is not up to them. You seemed to have a warped view on what it is that police officers do.

 

Perfect example why folks get beat down and some shot, think they know but they don't know squat

 

Why don't you go test that theory right now and let us know how it works out?

 

Exactly. If you think the cop is on the wrong, the side of the road is not the pace to have that discussion.

 

Not clear at all as you said

That doesn't indicate treatment. But I refer you back to post 105.

If you were treated and cleared, then you would have been vetted as fit for duty. Police should do the same before hiring war vets, just as the military did for you, before redeploying you.

But I will let you know, it's just not my opinion.

http://www.policemag.com/channel/ca...01/military-vets-joining-law-enforcement.aspx

 

As an RSO

Believe me, as a private RSO and instructor that deals with the public and the cops on a daily basis I agree, BUT I do not want to fire my weapon. I want them to. My fund for lawyers fees is limited

Citizens are required to obey any 'lawlful order' given by the police.

 

News flash, courts exist to contest things like this. Arguing with a cop that's having a bad day, or is out to do something sketch makes you a target, and turns you into a statistic. I'd think people value their lives over making a point, right then, right there.

Then again, I don't credit most people with an overwhelming amount of common sense.