That totally depends when you start to look at the numbers. I posted the the figures of Australia together with the US before the NFA spanning a decade. The decline was about the same. The difference between those 2 countries before that decade could be different. I got a new graph: It's crystal clear that there is a STEEP decline right after 1996. So there is a direct correlation between the policy shift in 1996 and the amount of violence. You could argue that the policies in 2002 and 2003 had little impact. I can give you that. But it's also crystal clear that the line keeps going down and down. The carnage in the US didn't go down that much at all. The US went from being "just" 4.5 times more dangerous to 11 times more dangerous. In no way am I going to accept that you call this "but it's just a coincidence that tough gun laws in Australia made the line go down, and weak gun laws in the US hardly did nothing" This is all in line with Canada and the EU who also got tough gun laws, and their stats about gun violence show how much more safe their countries are compared to the US. Are you seriously going to sell me that it's all a coincidence that you can not explain??? lol Right. So when you argue that the line going down, before a policy, and it still goes down afterwards, you conclude the policy had no effect. But when I use that argument that a line goes up, before a policy, and still goes up afterwards... I may not make that conclusion of yours. That's not intellectual consistent from you. Why should I need to prove that? Go prove it yourself. I got an explanation why the gun related violence in the US is so high compared to other modern western nations. Since Australia put in their tough gun laws, they went from 4.5 times more safe compared to the US to being 11 times more safe. What do you got to explain this? it's all just lucky, ey? lol Correction. They couldn't buy brand new ones, but they were still able to buy wel functioning well maintained ones. And there are some 200 to 300 million of those around. And why would a convicted felon go into a shop, to buy a gun, that can be traced back to him? lol All them American gun policies, you think were tough, are still terrible weak. While the prohibition of assault riffles did show a lot less homicides were done with them, when that prohibition was up. True story.