Tulsi Gabbard

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    "She keeps assuring people that that's not the case,” said Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.). “I hope that her word is good.”

    I find that last line hilarious by Durbin, what democrat ever has been a man or woman of their word? Ever. the last one was probably Bruce Babbit.
     
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    I guess some white pantsuits are more equal than others.
     
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    Oh for f**ks sake!!

    Smh ...
     
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    welp, i might just be influenced enough to vote for tulsi...

    if for no other reason then she'd be the first 'presidential penthouse pinup' and i'd like to think i played a part in nominating her
     
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    I have never been more proud to be a Tulsi supporter(in spite of her throat problem), than after watching the debate. The only candidates that can easily beat Trump, are the candidates that are openly smear. And they know this. It doesn't matter which NeoLibs, Centrist, or Corporate Democrat is nominated, as long as the DNC's donor class and corporate America are protected at all cost. As long as no Progressives are nominated, their lifestyle, power, and positions are protected. They can continue duping the public with the illusion of choice, and spewing out more empty promises. The only thing worse than the blatant smearing of Tulsi on National TV, is to listen to gullible corporate clones spin silly narrative that try to reconcile the plain truth. Only the same people that thought Obama was NOT born in America, or that Clinton did not have sex with that woman, would think that Tulsi loves dictators, or is a Russian plant. Especially, when the only evidence is, "well, she didn't deny it". Is this level of American intelligence, the product of the Dumbing down" process by Corporate America? They know, that the longer you keep lying and smearing a person, the more and more people will believe it(Psych. 101). It doesn't matter how absurd it is. If fact, the more absurd the message is, the easy it will be believed. Just look at Aliens, an afterlife, flat earth, or the paranormal. It doesn't matter how many times the lies and smears have been debunked. She has proven again why she is a giant slayer. When candidates are reduced to using old debunked smears and lies to attack a candidate, it speaks volumes about their character, their integrity, and gives us a glimpse into the kind of President they will be.

    Since the substance of the half-truths were left out in the debates, let me explain. Tulsi, AS THE VICE-CHAIRPERSON of the DNC, visited Trump at Trump tower, to get him to STOP FUNDING AND ARMING TERRORIST, TO OVERTHROW THE SYRIAN GOVERNMENT. Simply saying that she just visited Trump Tower to meet with Trump many times(another lie), is just cowardly, immature, and vindictive. This action was just part of her job, and she had the courage and initiative to do it. Remember just what committees in Congress she is on.

    Tulsi went to Syria on a fact-finding mission(like Leo Ryan did at Jonestown), as a member the Foreign Affairs and Arms Service Committees in Congress. She wanted first-hand factual justification, for the continued killing of militants and civilian using Drones. Just taking the word of the Government is not an option for any rational person, let alone a person of peace(WMD's, Assad gassing his own people, the Tonkin Incident, Election Fraud lies in Venezuela, etc.). Many other politicians and diplomates also have visited Assad. Tulsi and her group were not the first, and won't be the last. Does the media also mention, that she also met with religious leaders, Mayors, opposition leaders, civilians, and many government leaders in Syria? They all prefer the Assad Government, than the CIA funded and armed, head-chopping terrorists, trying to overthrow their Government. It was only while she was in Syria, that her team received an invitation to a sit-down with Assad. Was she suppose to say NO to the President of the country she was in? And, miss out on an opportunity to get more information? Of course not. No rational person on the planet would have done that. Did you know that the US even had an Embassy in Syria, at one time?

    What Buttigieg really said, was that he would be open to sending our military into Mexico to assist Mexico in fighting the Cartels. He even repeated this in his response. So, again Tulsi was right. Under zero conditions should the American Military engage in fighting the Mexican cartels, unless they become an army of Mexico, and try to invade the US. Of course this will never happen. Never did Tulsi say, or imply, that the US would invade Mexico. This was a blatant straw man distraction. It is bad judgement to even be opened to the prospects of using our military to help Mexico fight their Drug Cartels. We can't even use our US military(not National Guard) to fight against civil disorders. It is irrelevant whether Mexico welcomes it. Oh, has Mexico paid for the wall yet? Killing people in sovereign country, is reserved for those countries silly enough to directly attack us, or our allies. It is not to appease the interests of war profiteers. Our American troops did not sign up to protect the corporate class. Her fashion? Just sad and desperate.

    It is amazing, that when the DNC is constantly attacking Tulsi with lies and smears, that they only label her as being against the party, when she fights back. Just look at what happens every time she goes on mainstream news. She always winds up defending her position against lies, smears, and character attacks. Just go look for yourself. At least on Fox, she can simply speak towards the substance of her policies, without having to defend herself against smears and lies. She speaks on all media platforms to get her message out. From independent, to Internet, to mainstream media. What she has done is expose the true nature of Corporate America. And, to expose what lengths they will go to silence their greatest threat. But first, the people must stay ignorant and distracted, with the same litany of smears and lies. Because they are basically stupid, and will believe what they are told, if it is packaged well. Never mind about the evidence. Just keep saying it over and over again. And, before anyone give a knee-jerk response, like "Well they criticised Trump as well". Tulsi is NOT the president, and all criticisms of Trump have at least something of substance.

    She stepped down from her position as the party's vice-chairperson of the DNC, because of the corruption she saw. Do you think Biden, Warren, Buttigieg, Harris, Klobuchar, Booker, or the Billionaire, would have done the same? Of course not. They will go along, to get along. Just like it has been for the last 60 years. So, if you don't want change, then vote for the establishment, and just keep complaining for the next 4 years to feed our political cynicism. Just like it has, is, and apparently, will always be. So, lets just keep being divided, so that at least half the country will always be happy. This is our last chance to choose the best candidate to help our country and its people. Not the candidate the party wants us to choose to help its own interests. This is a no-brainer for me. Why is it not the same for others?
     
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    Do you know what the fallacy is when someone keeps asking you, "When did you stop beating your wife?". Or, "Why don't you say that Assad is a war criminal?". Or, "Why do you like dictators so much?". Or, "Why do white nationalist support you?". Or, "Why haven't you denied that you are a Russian asset?". It is not HER word that should be questioned, it is the fact-less accusations by hypocrites, paid stooges, and cowards, that should be questioned.

    The only person who is a person of their word? TULSI GABBARD.
     
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    I know what THEY are trying to do. They are desperate to silence this single digit polling candidate. Her talents are far too dangerous for them to ignore. But I'm assuming that we are smarter than this, and would at least ask the question of WHY? What exactly are they so afraid of from Tulsi? Why are her policies so dangerous to them? Why aren't people really scrutinizing her policies more closely, instead of dismissing her because of smears and lies? How would her policies affect most Americans? Are we so complacent and apathetic, that we have stopped thinking critically? Do we just blindly jump on the corporate media bandwagon, because it has fed our truth-addiction for so long? Are we no longer able to go against the established truths that we have depended upon for so long? Surely they can't be wrong, or blatantly dishonest? So, what do most people do? They ignore the truth, and embrace the lies they are being told. This is why cognitive dissonance is so powerful, in controlling behavior.

    It is "We the people" that will lose, if Tulsi fails. It is the status quo that will win, if Tulsi fails. Corporate America has everything to lose, and we have everything to gain, if Tulsi wins. So, counting down the future of America, is a bit flippant at best. Any candidate other than Tulsi or Bernie, is a vote to maintain the status quo, and a business as usual paradigm. So, if you feel that the Government is bad, and all politicians are crooked, then voting the same corporate stooges into office, will always be a self-fulfilling prophesy. So keep it up, and vote in Biden, Warren, Harris, or God forbid Buttigieg. None of them will beat Trump, and you can keep complaining about politicians all over again.

    This is our last chance to save ourselves. I feel like the little girl trying to tell the people, that the king is not wearing any clothes.
     
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    I would rather live in my own fantasy, than be limited in language comprehension. The former is by choice, and the latter is by evolution. In spite of another straw man, I did not imply, state, or insinuate, that smoking pot is good for your lungs or your general health. I do not endorse, or promote the use of marijuana for the general population, period. So, you can misrepresent my comments anyway you like, since others are also reading them. But for those others who read my post; Marijuana is a Scheduled 1 drug by the Federal Government. Medical marijuana is legal in 30 States, and is moderately effective in the treatment of chronic pain. But, on the Federal level, it is illegal for doctors to prescribe medical marijuana, because it is a Scheduled 1 drug. Tulsi wants to make Marijuana a Scheduled 2 drug(like Cocaine and Meth), so that trials and studies can start to verify its medicinal properties. Why? Because our disabled veterans can only be prescribed powerful opioids by the VA, which are more addictive, and more devastating to the mind and the body. Medical Marijuana is a safer alternative. Maybe you were a choir boy or a boy scout, but these veterans didn't ask for their injuries. We are obligated as human beings to help them, to have as much a normal life as possible. Or you could use Trump's Logic, "He is not a hero, because heroes don't become prisoners.". Or, words to that effect.

    We are only talking about the medical use of Cannabis, and not its recreational use. I ask you to compare and contrast the pain-relieving properties of cigarettes and cannabis. You provided neither. I asked you to provide the link between Cannabis and 3 specific diseases. You provided zero links. I asked you to back up your claim that the Government is trying to redistribute the wealth. This should be easy, since 7% of the population own over 90% of all wealth. Nothing again, other than I just need to open my eyes. It is very hard to have a debate with someone that can't backup anything they say, other than parroting corporate talking points. Do you really think that my country is being invaded by women and children from south of the border? Here's a novel idea, lets stop sanctioning, organizing and staging coups, disrupting economies, starving citizens, and stealing the natural resources, of our Latin neighbours in the south. Lets see how that will effect this invasion of refugees and immigrants? Maybe we should also stop taking billions of dollars from undocumented immigrants and refugees, and providing them with zero government services? Let's just let these invading women and children die on the streets, or stay locked up in cages, without healthcare like the rest of us. All because we decided who our parents would be, and where we would be born.

    Only 7 States provide the Federal Government with tax revenue from the planting of Marijuana https://qz.com/1595906/how-much-tax-do-marijuana-businesses-pay/ This money is paid only in cash. The US Government makes about 5 Billon dollars in taxes from these Cannabis companies, even though Cannabis is still illegal under Federal Law. It is the State and Local governments that control these farms. Governments do not make profits like the Tobacco Industries. This money is used to support many government programs. Do you really think that politicians simply claim their share of any access revenue?

    I'm afraid that our Government can be a necessary evil sometimes. I don't see where the Government takes 70% off the top(of what?), and redistributes it to make politicians rich. I need to see the evidence. Maybe you can provide evidence of this also?
     
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    Dick Durbin lies like a rug.

    "But “I cannot even stand to look at you,” is what Sen. Dick Durbin says one unnamed House GOP leader told Obama in a meeting during the recent government shutdown.

    By Wednesday afternoon, spokesmen for the White House and Speaker John Boehner had flatly denied that any such encounter ever occurred. But Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, posted the allegation on Facebook over the weekend, and his office said Wednesday that he stood by his words."

    "And yet Max Gleischman, a spokesman for Durbin, the Senate’s second-ranking Democrat, said, “Durbin stands by his comments.”

    It’s worth noting that the only face-to-face meeting between Obama and House GOP leaders was on Oct. 10, and Durbin was not present."
    POLITICO, Did someone really say 'I cannot even stand to look at you' to President Obama? Trash-talking the president, By TODD S. PURDUM, 10/23/2013.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/trash-talking-president-barack-obama-098777

    Tulsi Gabbard is an honest Lefty.
    No wonder the DP hates her guts.
     
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    It stupid, but it was from the woman's style section of the newspaper
     
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    Why would anyone support Buttigieg? He is all theater, with zero substance. This was clearly seen on the debate stage. He is a propped-up corporate, "empty suit", who is incapable of giving a direct answer to any question(like Warren). His scripted political façade, and persona, were obliterated when they were moderately challenged by a woman of truth. To be clear, under NO circumstances should we be using our military to fight drug cartels in ANY country, period. Not only is this not the function of our Military, but, it will never work, and it will waste more lives and money. But instead of owning and defending his remarks, he resorted to the same establishment lies, misrepresentations, and smears. These are the desperate actions of a coward, not a president. This media prop created his own straw man(the invasion of Mexico) to deflect away from his remarks. He also attacked her character, by insinuating that Tulsi had exercised poor judgement for meeting with Assad. It didn't matter that Tulsi NEVER said anything about invading Mexico, or that meeting with dictators is also part of the President's job description.

    As I watched the *****(weakness) in Buttigieg's armour begin to spread, and his scripted façade melt away, it reminded me of a child trying to argue with his mother. Don't we want the best candidate to be our President? Or, do we just want to be duped by another self-centered corporate stooge? The only thing worse than watching a grown man crumble under the weight of the truth, is watching the extreme lengths, that corporate media will go to, to spin their version of how "Mayor Pete" was NOT schooled by an adult on the debate stage. If all you can do is smear anyone, who is pounding you with the truth(Tulsi), then how are you going to respond to someone who will be pounding you with lies(Trump)? Are we a nation of substance, or a nation of theater? If you attack Tulsi, you had better be right. Or, you will suffer the wrath of her integrity. She has withstood months of these same lies, smears and attacks, that even when sick and hoarse, she will destroy you with the truth. Tulsi is not just a woman of integrity and courage, she is a force for inspiration and truth.



    Both of these sites are not even fans of Tulsi, but they are at least honest. I won't bother with Harris, since her attacks on Tulsi were as unhinged as her bruised ego.
     
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    The first clip demonstrates what an incredible speaker, and human being this person is. Just think of Warren, Biden, Booker, or Harris, speaking at this event. This is not a place for fake and staged theater. This is a place for authenticity and the security in one's own faith.

    The second clip demonstrates clearly the desperate lengths that Mainstream Corporate Media will go to silence Tulsi Gabbard. MSM is totally dependent on the political ignorance, and blind loyalty of its indoctrinated followers. They are hoping that their clones will believe, without question, any lying corporate propaganda they spew out about a candidate. They are hoping that people are so stupid, that they will believe any corporate media diatribe on a candidate, if it is repeated enough times. They are hoping that people are so stupid, that they will just parrot the MSM's diatribe as the truth. They want to exploit the egos, jealousies, xenophobia, and bigotries, to silence any dissenting corporate narrative. They do not want people to critically examine Tulsi's clear and obvious policies. They also want to protect their six, and seven figure salaries. Especially, if they fail to distract their clones from listening to the truth about American Imperialism, and why our domestic policies have not changed in over 70 years. She is the most dangerous person of principle, with the courage and proven history, to change the Corporate Status Quo, and affect positive changes for the American people. Have we become so entrenched and indoctrinated by the corporate paradigm, theater and fakeness, that when someone comes along and exposes the obvious solutions, we just dismiss it as socialism, bad judgement, or as being Russian inspired? Are we really this stupid? Do we really want to continue more wars and interventions all over the world? Do we really want to keep wasting trillions of dollars, killing people in countries that do not threaten us directly or indirectly? Do we want to keep bribing our elected representatives? Don't we want Healthcare for everyone, including an option to keep some augmented coverage? Why are we not re-instating Glass-Steagall, using our Anti-Trust Laws, or ending the cash-bail system and private prisons? And how about increasing minimum wage? What is wrong with these policies?

    Maybe someone can point out just ONE(not contrived) of Tulsi's policies that is not truth to power, or does not benefit the people? Maybe someone can point to just ONE character flaw(integrity, honesty, genuineness, authenticity, gravitas, beliefs, strength, leadership, etc), that makes her untrustworthy or questionable? Why is she the most Google searched candidate in all of her debates? Maybe someone can point to her history of activism and principles(Puerto Rico, stepping down as vice-chair of the DNC, Standing Rock, the TMT Project, Homestead Detention Center, her voting record in Congress, etc.), that would question whether she is the "real deal" or not? Or, that she is just another corporate crony, who would go along to get along? Maybe, someone can point-out anything of substance about Tulsi, that is not more of the same imaginary, vague, or guilt-by-association corporate smear sound bites? The substance of my opinions, will always be based on facts, truisms, logic, and reasoning. I am not affected by the artificial façade, created by Corporate hype and theater. If we just step outside of the corporate bubble, we would easily realize that the people on MSM are all actors. Many even belong to the same talent agency. Many are not even real journalist. Their only job is to convince you of whatever corporate narrative they are told, to protect their salaries. Just ask Phil Donahue, Jesse Ventura, or Ashleigh Banfield, of what happens when you speak against the corporate narrative on the Iraq War(over 2 Trillion dollars wasted)? Why are we just allowing Oligarchs, Plutocrats, and the Meritocrats to run this country, and lie to us for the last 70 years? When will we be able to break this cycle? Just how many body-bags, criminals, homeless, jobless, beggars, wounded and the disabled, will it take before we start to run out of excuses? We are just creating a callus society of people who only care about the things that they have, and screw the rest. These people not only despise those who are without, but will be against anything that will help them out of their poverty. They are truly the product of Capitalism, and the free enterprise system. Like Tulsi says, "It doesn't have to be this way.". And, it doesn't. We just need to wake up first.




     
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    She's not getting any traction, and I doubt she will, but I am plenty happy to have her hang around and pester the rest of the candidates. We will learn more about them as she pokes and prods hoping for an interaction that can give her publicity. .
     
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    If she is not gaining any traction(which she is), it is because people have become far too tribal and partisan, to even comprehend the importance of her message. If exposing the integrity, trustworthiness, and the moral principles of the DNC propped-up sellout corporate centrists, may be only "pokes and prods" and "pestering", to you, but it represents just how corrupt and lackey-dependent, the DNC has become to me. She has opened my eyes to a world of well-packaged political make-believe. Unfortunately, this make-believe(lies), have cost the lives of real people. And, will continue to cost lives, as long as we remain apathetic, and be entertained by corporate actors, in a corporate sponsored show. We will continue paying and arming terrorist to commit genocide in Yemen. We will continue our drone strikes in 7 sovereign countries. We will continue trying to overthrow the government of Syria, and to de-stabilized the government of Iran. We will continue to organize and mount Coup attempts in other sovereign countries(Venezuela). Even our own president has stated publicly, that the US is taking, and defending the oil in Syria. Just business as usual. There is no question that this is just blatant American Imperialism. The only question is, which of the candidate will have the courage and the balls, to stand up to the power of the Corporate Establishment? Which of the candidates will have the history to prove, that they can change the direction of American Imperialism? Warren? Booker? Harris? Klobuchar, Biden or Buttigieg? I seriously doubt that any of them have that history.

    Where was the "hue and cry" or public outrage, when Tulsi was being slandered, smeared, and lied about, since the first day of her campaign? Where was any of this outrage when her childhood, her religion, her moral character, and her patriotism were being blatantly attacked? Nowhere. Just bandwagon mentality. Even when she defends against fact-less, and absurd lies, she is being accused of being a political opportunist. Wow. Anyone who argues against her on the substance of her policies, will always lose. All they can do is smear her, spew out negative polling's, create guilt by association, red-baiting, and exploit innuendoes and inferences. They are not even trying to hide their deceit and attacks anymore. Attacking even her fashion sense. The most tragic thing to our country is, that they are winning with their lies. Does anyone hear, really think that a two-time combat veteran, Major for 16 years in the NG, a 7 year four-time elected representative, with the highest security clearance, is a Russian Asset, or has a fondness for Assad and other dictators? Especially, without any evidence at all? Does anyone see just how dangerous it is for the corporate media, to try and silence any candidate, by attacking their character(without evidence)? This is standard practice in third-world countries, but NOT in America. Trump is certainly right about "fake news".
     
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    Its not her that is my problem. She does not attempt to sit in the cookie cutter party mold. That does not make her a visionary or a saint. It just means we have to pay more attention to what she is and isn't actually saying and not try to cut away the dough hanging over the cutter edges. . But she is not the only candidate who doesn't fit that cookie cutter mold and we need to make habit of looking at their actual shapes rather than forming those shapes into hearts, stars and circles.

    Its your form of smearing her opponents in her name that is my problem. I think people need to decide what a 'corporatist' is and make damn sure it doesn't turn some cliché in Democratic party-speak for evil-doer- who-has-the-balls-to-oppose-my-ideas-and-my-fanboy/fangirl. I am sure hearing it come out as a pretty bargain basement accusation these days. I totally dismiss that 'corporatist' accusation whenever I hear it, from whoever levels it in democratic or progressive circles. It is utterly meaningless to me.

    Tulsi Gabbard is not one whit better or more ethical than most of those men and women on that stage. She is just less desperate to be seen now. She knows she has a lot more time to grow and change, and she intends to take full advantage of that time. She is not in a rush to finish evolving for this election win, and I like that stage in politicians. We should do what we can not to punish it.
     
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    If not Tulsi, I don't see anyone with a shot at beating Trump. Bernie? ..... maybe, but he's so old and has zero crossover appeal, which Tulsi does have.

    What the Democrats need to remember is that many voted for Trump in 2016 as the "not Hillary" candidate, me among them. Many of these voters could be flipped back with the right candidate but, as 2016 showed, it will not happen with one of these status quo Dems.

    What Tulsi had not done is to flesh out any real domestic agenda. She had got to do this or will increasingly be seen as a one-trick pony and that won't get it.
     
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    Her one trick being against all the deployments we've witnessed the last almost 20 years?


    Figure Tulsi Gabbard can win all the Hillary States
    and pick up a few more from the GREAT RED MIDDLE.
    Those who pay the price in blood, bone and lives for the Not At War, Wars of regime change, terrorism, etc.


    I don't see any other Democratic Candidate who can do that 2020.
    Biden has little appeal in the West.
    Warren cannot turn a Red State, Blue.
    The rest are just not worth their air time!


    Moi :oldman:
    Tulsi first,
    Trump second choice.







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    She's got to get the nomination first. She has to put a domestic program together. I say this as constructive criticism. If she gets the nomination, she has my vote.
     
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    Don't agree.


    The others argue over Domestic Programs and very small points.

    Foreign policy and obnoxious military deployments are her strengths.

    She needs to get out in some of those Red States that contribute more lives to the military.
     
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    Yeah, she's got her strengths. Her weakness is her lack of a domestic policy. That will be highlighted as she goes on.

    Why would she want to get out into red states now? The nomination comes first. She has to focus on those early voting states (be they red or blue) or goodbye nomination.
     
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    I agree. The Democrat civil war is showing that no one candidate is fit. You have Shotgun Joe Biden (lol), Chief Cherokee Warren (even more LOL) and Tulsi (who I disagree with economy-wise, but I love her foreign policy). Ensuring that the Dem party is even more divided than 2016
     
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    I am ignoring most of this, but I think this process is way healthier than 2016. Of course it spotlights divisions and weaknesses that were less obvious and papered over in 2016 with only two candidates, one of which was not even a Dem. The point is that it spotlights them early enough that democratic voters can correct for those divisions and pick a candidate that will better represent the vision and priorities of the party. While I will never understand in a million years, how the GOP voter ended up picking Trump as its standard-bearer in 2020, I have to say that the process was healthier with so many more choices after Iowa and New Hampshire going into supertuesday, than we supplied. Fact is that a deeper bench of competition for delegates, and voters in the primary may drain some resources for the general election but it leads to a battle hardened and leaner campaign and candidate that has proven itself worthy of broad party support because it earned it.

    The 2016 process for Dems was all about painting ourselves into the Clinton corner all the while having the sinking feeling it was not even the right color for the walls we wanted to paint.
     
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    Red States have votes at the Democratic Convention.


    Moi :oldman:


    What is her policy on :flagcanada: ?
    As Tough as Trump's or wus like Bush, jr. & Obama.
     
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    I'm afraid that Tulsi does not have any weaknesses at all. Her Domestic policy acumens are even more impressive than her Foreign policy acumens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard . https://activatenow.us/tulsi-gabbard-domestic-policy-media-cannot-ignore/ https://www.ontheissues.org/Tulsi_Gabbard.htm

    If you watch all of her town hall meet and greets, you will see and hear her positions on domestic issues. Other than treating her Healthcare for all plus choice with disdain, the media rarely mentions her positions on domestic issues. It is the corporate media, that decides how they want people to think about the candidates. If they decide they want people to think that Tulsi is only a "one issue candidate", then that is what many people will parrot. Even though, your own brain will tell you, that no candidate can be this one-dimensional. Cognitive dissonance can be a bi**h.

    Please, stop listening to mainstream media. They are just lying to you to your face. They are only trying to protect their own interests, not yours. Do your own homework, and not blindly parrot corporate media talking points about Tulsi. Is anyone saying that, saving trillions of dollars, stopping the refugee crisis, stopping the killing of people for profit, stopping of all regime-change wars, and the re-entering of both nuclear treaties, is insignificant to our domestic policy issues? I would endorse anyone, who would embraced these policies alone. Let alone, having their own impressive domestic policy position. It is a no-brainer for me. My President should inspire me. My President should be trustworthy. Other than Bernie, only one candidate can claim both of these qualities of leadership, based on the facts alone.

    So please, no more spreading disinformation about Tulsi. It only says more about you, than it does about her. Her domestic policies, are just as solid as her foreign policy. People just believe what they are told, and don't bother checking for themselves. They simply want to believe what they are told.

    Tulsi speaks her message to ALL people. She doesn't see Red or Blue States. Her brain is not defined by any one conceptual make-believe political ideology. If people want to blindly put partisan party ideology before common sense, then our country will stay divided, and the status quo will be maintained. Until people start thinking for themselves, outside of any corporate partisan bubble, then we will continue to be the victims of the corporate/political propaganda media machine. The answers to both domestic and foreign policy issues, are staring us all in the face. It is up to us to see it.
     
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    The dem party has always been divided. For that matter so has the republican party. But if warren, Biden or Butt wins, you are right they have no chance. They are just more establishment hacks same as Hilary and would not have enough support to get 40 percent of the population to actually care enough to vote. The reason they won't win is not because more people support Trump, it's just that most of the people who lean left or Dem (who don't support Trump) don't see the point in voting in more of the same. And even Obama was more of the same. The dems still don't understand this and is the reason they are probably going to lose again.
     
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